2009 Nobel Peace Prize

[Chris-St Louis]

I say W should get it. Hes done more for Africa then ANY other president. He's liberated 2 countries while taking on the Muslim nujobs that have ben f*ckign with us since 79. Did he make mistakes, sure...Of course, but he did do a lot of things right.

 

[MarkP]

President Reagan should have received the award for actual "accomplishments".

Obama's selection at this stage would be similar to awarding Neville Chamberlain the Peace Prize in 1938, the same year Time Magazine chose Schicklgruber as Time's Man of the Year.


As for Obama's selection, what could go wrong?

Exit, stage left; exeunt stage right
The Belmont Club

The Nobel Committee thinks that President Obama is advancing the cause of peace......​

 

[hamsquatch]

I say W should get it. Hes done more for Africa then ANY other president. He's liberated 2 countries while taking on the Muslim nujobs that have ben f*ckign with us since 79. Did he make mistakes, sure...Of course, but he did do a lot of things right.

you belong in a mental institution.

 

[Chris-St Louis]

Um, Ok. did I say anything that isnt true?

 

[p m]

People. It?s not our award. They can give it to whomever they want. Do you really think you?re better qualified to determine who should and who should not get it? Be glad that it went to an American.

I had a lot to say when I saw this, and decided against it.
Hamsquatch, sell your Rover and buy yourself a Dodge.

 

[Chris-St Louis]

1) Under Bush’s leadership, America has increased development and humanitarian aid to Africa from $1.4 billion in 2001 to more than $4 billion per year now.

He has doubled U.S. trade with Africa, and has launched the largest siege against AIDS and malaria there ever. Even though the challenge is never-ending, more than 800,000 Africans are currently receiving anti-AIDS medication thanks to George Bush’s priorities.

2) Despite pressure from many quarters, Bush has kept Alaska’s ANWAR off limits for drilling. Progressives should LOVE him for that!

He has increased by millions efforts to clean America’s forests to reduce the threat of wildfires, and to restore those lost or damaged.

He has further enhanced his environmental legacy by designating more than 190 million square miles of ocean as national preserves, including Hawaii’s Northwestern Islands.

With few exceptions, America’s air, water and land are cleaner today than at any time since our industrial revolution.


3) Although Bush’s record on healthcare is a mixed bag, he gets undeniable credit on at least two counts: prescription coverage for seniors, and community health care centers.

Despite opposition from his own party, “he achieved the largest expansion in Medicare benefits in decades” as one health expert put it; especially significant “in the modern medical era in which drugs are the cornerstone of treatment.”

Also, the President literally doubled funding for community health care centers, expanding or creating 1,300 centers across the nation serving otherwise under-served areas. Without such centers, expensive emergency room care would often be the only alternative.

4) Contrary to popular wisdom, in 2001 George Bush was one of the first to warn Congress of the dangers of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac run amok. Between him and John McCain, the warnings continued through 2006. Leading the pooh poohs were Democrats Sen. Chuck Shumer and U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, both leading recipients of Fannie and Freddie campaign contributions. (Click onYouTube: “Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial mess.”)


5) On the day after 9-11, I wrote: “The only way we may be able to measure victory in a war against global terrorism are the lengths of time between major attacks on our homeland.”


Bush’s post-9-11 anti-terror policies - for better or worse - have kept us safe from another attack.

Right after 9-11, who would have bet on that possibility?

The Department of Homeland Security, the provisions of the Patriot Act, reforming the relationships between our intelligence agencies, the handling of captured enemy combatants at Guantanamo and - yes - the war in Iraq.

Whether intended or not, the Iraq war - besides liberating Iraqis from a despot and planting the seeds of a democratic ally in the most dangerous part of the world - distracted Al Qaida from plotting more attacks on the U.S. It drew them into a losing commitment, showing their darkest side to the people of Iraq and the world.

Their power and stature have been significantly diminished. Bin Laden is withering away in a dark Wiziristan cave, emitting an occasional feeble message to his wandering followers.



And, what has Obama done?

 

[apg]

OSLO, NORWAY (The Borowitz Report) - As the world responded with a mixture of surprise and amazement to the announcement of President Obama's Nobel Peace Prize, Nobel insiders revealed that the President's "beer summit" at the White House put him over the top.

"The committee was definitely split down the middle right up until the end," said Agot Valle, a Norwegian politician and member of the five-person Nobel committee. "Some of them were still quite upset about that nasty business with the Somali pirates."

But, according to Ms. Valle, "someone brought up the beer summit, and we all agreed that that was awesome."

Ms. Valle said she hoped that Mr. Obama's victory would be seen not only as a victory for him, but "as a tribute to the healing power of beer."

Ms. Valle acknowledged that the President's win was widely considered an upset, with most pundits having expected the prize to go to Mad Men or 30 Rock.

Elsewhere, NASA bombed the moon, saying it was the one spot President Bush missed.

 

[landrovered]

Awesome!

 

[Chris-St Louis]

Awesome!

Thanks. It was a cut an dpaste though.

 

[kennith]

Peter, maybe you're right, though I wonder which media then you get your knowledge from.
Anyway, just to be clear about this: my 50/50 rule does not refer to any election results. What I was trying to say was,
50% of germans are idiots, 50% are decent people.
50% of americans are idiots, 50% are decent people.
continue as you like with norwegians, Iraqis, russians, catholics, Land Rover Owners, republicans, whatever. There are good, and there are bad.
And now continue to beat your heads, thank you for reading.

Stop taking my idiot theory and butchering it. It isn't 50 percent, it's 80 percent.

Obama doesn't deserve any prize.

That said, I'd rather him keep it that way. I didn't like his promises to begin with. I don't want them to be fulfilled. So, if he manages to run his whole term without doing anything at all, I'll be happier for it.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[J. Toronado]

Go ahead - defend Obama getting this. Please I want to have a good laugh. He hasn't done squat to bring peace to anywhere.

I'm not going to defend Obama getting this--I was as surprised as you. But its not going to ruin my day either. My take is it was probably done as a slap in the face to george bush...

 

[RBBailey]

The decision was not made until recently in spite of the cut off for nomination. So it is incorrect to assume that only the first ten days were the sole basis for the selection.

You are pissed, I accept that but this is a stupid line of arguement.

Well then, you have the whole last 9 months to discuss -- how did he earn this award?

The fact is, he did earn the award, I'm just waiting to see if you actually know why your man won this joke of an award?

 

[J. Toronado]

Um, Ok. did I say anything that isnt true?

I'd like to know what two countries you think W "liberated"? Please don't tell me Iraq and Afghanistan....

 

[Chris-St Louis]

How are they not liberated?

 

[J. Toronado]

How are they not liberated?

:banghead:

 

[Timmy!!!!!!!]

I'd like to know what two countries you think W "liberated"? Please don't tell me Iraq and Afghanistan....

Do you forget what sort of regimes the Taliban and Saddam Hussein were.

I guess you like your women to wear burkas and to gas your neighboring countries...

 

[RBBailey]

People. It’s not our award. They can give it to whomever they want. Do you really think you’re better qualified to determine who should and who should not get it? Be glad that it went to an American.
Who’s side are you on anyway? The election is LONG over. Man up or shut up.

So, when he spends our money to fly AF1 and all, over to Oslo to accept the award, and then pockets the prize money for himself, you would still say that we don't have anything to say about it?

I'm not glad it went to an American. It's a joke of an award that is more of a wink and a nod to anyone who is anti-American, than it is about world peace.

Obama did earn this award. He has earned it by dictating the placement of czars who are unanswerable to the tax payer and the voter. He earned it by putting unrecoverable debt on us. He earned it by ignoring Afghanistan. He earned it by capitulating to Russia and Iran. He earned it by socializing GM. By whining for socialized medicine. He earned it for ignoring the plight of his own family, living in poverty in Africa. He earned it by the color of his skin. He earned it for apologizing for America. He earned it for chairing the U.N. in a show of solidarity with a governing body other than the one he is sworn to protect and administer.

These are the criteria for this award, and Obama met every one of them. And this is why it is a disgrace that an American has won it. This is why I am a bit stirred up about it. I'm not mad because Bush didn't win it. I'm not mad because Obama did. I see it for the joke, the slap in the face to America that the award has become.

 

[Chris-St Louis]

Liberated Iraq!

According to a UNICEF report at the end of 2003, more than 3 1/2 million children had been immunized.

School Attendance is up 80%
!
Again, according to an April, 2004 report from UNICEF, school attendance in Iraq increased by 60 percent shortly after the war to more than 95 percent during the recent national exam week.

More than 1,500 schools renovated-UNICEF says that as of April, 2004, more than 2,500 schools have been renovated with the goal of 4,000 being completed by the end of the year, but 10,000 more need repair.

The Port of Uhm Qasar renovated so grain can be offloaded faster-
In a November, 2003 interview on National Public Radio, Andrew Natsios of the U.S. Agency for International Development said that the port at Umm Qasar, Iraq's largest, is modern and functioning for the first time in 20 years.


All of the hospitals operating-
Because of disrepair and looting, it took a lot of work to get hospitals back up to speed but according to James Haverman, the Coalition Provisional Authority Senior Advisor to the Iraqi Ministry of Health, all 240 hospitals in Iraq as well as 2400 primary health care clinics were operating as of December, 2003.

Elections taking place in all major cities-

Sewer and water lines installed in every major city-
according to USAID, the water and sewage in Iraq has been suffering from years of neglect, electricity shortages, and post-war looting.
Work is underway to restore healthy water and sewage treatment to more than 14-million Iraqis.



An interim constitution has been signed-
On March 8, 2004, an interim constitution that defines Iraq as being "federal, democratic and pluralist" was signed by members of the Iraqi Governing Council.

Girls are allowed to attend school-
According to Human Rights Watch, Iraqi girls and women have enjoyed comparatively more rights than in some of the other countries of the Middle East.
The Iraqi Constitution of 1970 included women's rights for voting, attending school, owning property, and running for office.
Still, the status of women in Iraq has not always been the best because of other cultural and economic factors such as the aftermath of the 1991 war and economic sanctions.
School attendance for girls has not been prohibited although more boys than girls have been enrolled, especially in rural areas.

Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs-
Not only are U.S. soldiers demonstrating field sanitation and hand washing, but UNICEF is conducting an active health education program to improve personal hygiene and promote more hand washing.

Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years-

According to published reports, a team of U.S. appointed Iraqi educators combed through more than 500 Iraqi textbooks and removed every mention of Saddam Hussein and the Baathparty including pictures.
The texts will probably be revised by the Iraqis at some point in the future, but the pre-war texts were dominated with Saddam Hussein.



All Good things the Iraqies have thanks to W.

And BHO has done what?

 

[J. Toronado]

Do you forget what sort of regimes the Taliban and Saddam Hussein were. I guess you like your women to wear burkas and to gas your neighboring countries...

LIBERATE
1 : to set at liberty : free; specifically : to free (as a country) from domination by a foreign power.

as defined above we didnt do any such thing. the taliban are native afghanis and hussein was an iraqi. while these regimes were oppressive who are we to go around blasting the fuck out of people because we dont like them? even W knew you dont do that which is why they created the myth of WMDs and W himself says that invasion of iraq was a mistake because they never found wmd's. the iraqi's were not liberated. they are still fighting and roadside bombing the fuck out of us because we are the oppressors!

attacking afghanistan to throttle the taliban would have been great if they had pulled bin laden out of the mix but they havent. wheres bin laden? the taliban are stronger now then they ever were. the afghani civilians fucking hate us because we keep piling up innocent bodies. we didnt liberate shit.

 

[Chris-St Louis]

Please see my post before yours, Mr Mathews.