Able Danger

MarkP

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It's been a long time since we discussed Able Danger.

In summary, Able Danger is about a very successful intelligence program and "The Wall", Jamie Gorelick. Many believe the 9/11 attack was a side effect of a wall erected to protect Pres Clinton from Chinagate. Able Danger also highlights that the Clinton administration knew of the 9/11 suspects. The 9/11 commission was staffed for outcome.

Able Danger, Gorelick and Suspending Disbelief
By Abraham H. Miller
August 27, 2005

Able Danger, China, Cohen, AQ Data Purge = 9-11

It doesn't surprise me that a Democrat administration would want to suppress Able Danger.
 

MarkP

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Mmmmmm ...... now why would this re-emerge nearly 5-10 years later? I doubt this is random.

I wonder if there is a nexus with latest wikileaks? If so it would be about the lead up to 9/11 and OIF before President Bush.
 

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Able Danger is what became Echelon, isn't it?

By the way, the admin and other intel knew about OBL long before 9/11. The CIA and others were after OBL 3 years before 9/11, the Clinton WH actually used a phone to call off two of three missions -- even while the aircraft was on the tarmac with the violent men inside, waiting to do their work on our behalf -- I know three men who were on those planes, they were not surprised by the 9/11 attack, just red-taped to death to do anything about it.

You know the movies where the special forces guys have models and simulations and training before hand where they set up the whole thing exactly how it will be in real life and they run it over and over again till they can be sure they get it right? Yeah. It only works if the President gives the go-ahead.

Do you know how frustrating it was to have been watching the 9/11 attacks unfold on live TV while talking on the phone with one of the guys who was on one of those planes biting at the bit to go -- three years prior?

That's a conversation I will never forget.
 

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from the DOD

WASHINGTON, Sept. 1, 2005 ? The Defense Department today announced its findings after three weeks of investigations into allegations made by two military intelligence officers about the “Able Danger” program.

After doing extensive document searches and interviewing 80 people involved with the Able Danger program, DoD officials have been unable to find the chart alleged to have contained a photo of Sept. 11 hijacker Mohammed Atta, said Pat Downs, a senior policy analyst with the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence.
Through interviews, DoD officials did find three people who recall a chart with either a photo or a reference to Atta, Downs said. The three are in addition to Army Reserve Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, of the Defense Intelligence Agency, and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott, a military intelligence officer with U.S. Special Operations Command, who originally came forward with allegations that Atta had been identified before Sept. 11.
One person who recalled the chart was a SOCOM civilian analyst; one was an analyst with the Land Information Warfare Activity; and one was a contractor, said Thomas Gandy, the Army’s director of counterintelligence and human intelligence.
DoD officials have searched documents from all organizations involved with Able Danger, in addition to all the documents sent to the 9/11 commission, Downs said. They found a chart similar to the one described by the five people, but it did not contain a photo or a reference to Atta, she said.
The interviews were conducted with people who were involved both integrally and peripherally with Able Danger, said Navy Cmdr. Christopher Chope, of SOCOM’s Center for Special Operations. These interviews have not been completed, and some people are being re-interviewed as more information is discovered, Downs said.
There is a possibility that such a chart could have been destroyed, because during Able Danger, strict regulations about destruction of documents containing information about U.S. persons were followed, Gandy said. However, the officials found no indication that legal advice was given to anyone involved with the program to destroy documents, Chope said.
“We have negative indications that was ever the case,” he said.
Able Danger was started in early October 1999, when the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff tasked U.S. Special Operations Command to develop a campaign plan against transnational terrorism, specifically al Qaeda, Chope said. It was a 15-month effort in which Special Operations Command worked with different partners, including DoD and the Department of the Army, he said. He stressed that Able Danger was never anything except a planning effort.
“Able Danger was never a special-access program,” he said. “Able Danger was never a military unit. Able Danger was never a targeting effort; it was not a military deception operation. It was merely the name attributed to a 15-month planning effort.” In January 2001, Special Operations Command submitted the final plan to the joint staff, and Able Danger ended, Chope said. The effort never targeted specific individuals, but was used to determine vulnerabilities and linkages among and within al Qaeda, he said.
 

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Able Danger Documents Discovered?
Captain's Quarters ^ | May 21, 2006 | Captain Ed

The Able Danger blog has news from a FOIA request filed by Scott Malone of NavySeals.com and Christopher Law of PublicEdCenter.org that has produced an interesting response from the Pentagon. When they demanded the release of all information regarding the Able Danger project, the DoD rejected the request after a bit of bureaucratic misdirection. However, they acknowledged the existence of over 9500 pages of documentation -- apparently the same paperwork that they told Congress no longer existed:......

......In response to a Freedom of Information Act request, ?The Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, has determined that approximately 9,500 pages of these collected documents are potentially responsive to your FOIA request."

That news should stun those who have been following the Able Danger story for the past year. ......​


It feels like there is an intersection of Able Danger and WikiLeaks