Almost $50K D1 at Copley's.

kennith

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If it's as clean under the hood and skirt as it looks everywhere else (in the pictures, anyway), I don't see a problem with the price. You get to buy what almost amounts to a "new" D1.

The way cars are these days, that makes it worth the price of entry.

Lord knows how much I'm about to spend on my DII to get it back into new condition, but damn it all, these new cars just plain suck.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

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I remember some lady posted on LRF and mentioned her Disco had something like 2000 miles on it. Everyone assume it was a typo until she clarified it had sat in their garage for years. Who knows, maybe that was this one.
 

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I've bought two Epson Green D1's. The first was a '97 SE7 I bought new, the second was a '97 SD I bought last year. Both great rigs, but this price just blows my mind.

That's a special level of clean (once verified that it is indeed that good). Someone buying that wants a new D1.

Some might suggest that painting and trimming something cheaper would be more cost-efficient, but that's not the case, and no matter how much money you throw at it you can't make miles go away.

The single most efficient way to get an old vehicle that looks new is to buy a very well kept, low mileage unit in excellent shape that's not been modified.

They exist, but you have to pay for them. Having been on both sides of this coin several times, I can tell you that the smart money buys the vehicle that's already at that level, and then just handles the mechanicals working back into use as needed.

It's the foolish money that tries to make something else look that good.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

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On that point, I'm about to spend some foolish money on my own Rover; but there's more to what I'm doing than just bringing a vehicle back to life.

It'll fucking make me feel better to have it that way, and a replacement will not do the job.

That doesn't make it smart, though. :ROFLMAO:

Cheers,

Kennith
 

ERover82

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On that point, I'm about to spend some foolish money on my own Rover; but there's more to what I'm doing than just bringing a vehicle back to life.

It'll fucking make me feel better to have it that way, and a replacement will not do the job.

That doesn't make it smart, though. :ROFLMAO:

Cheers,

Kennith

Why not find a nice 2009 LR3 lux? Better in nearly every category, easier, and possibly less expensive. Even that G-wagen might come out ahead.
 

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Indeed.

150k on one of those engines is just getting broken in right? 😄
A non-turbo OM617 is a million-mile engine. But boy is it not a powerhouse - 87 hp, give or take some years.
My son's W123 with that engine is an exercise in self-restraint - though once it gets going, it will cruise happily at 80 mph.
 

kennith

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Why not find a nice 2009 LR3 lux? Better in nearly every category, easier, and possibly less expensive. Even that G-wagen might come out ahead.

I'd consider it, but I really need to finish this. Thinking about it a while showed me the importance.

It was stripped down when the gasket popped. I couldn't find the time, and then worn out bits on me started to give up like dominoes one after another. Got over that, and then another injury came back. I finally admitted that I couldn't do the job without paying someone to get it started; at least not yet.

So, restoring the DII is not really about having the DII restored. It's more about finally finishing something I started, reclaiming the time it spent parked, and telling the universe and whatever runs it that they'd better find someone else to fuck with.

That doesn't mean I won't go for something new, as well. It just means it's probably not going to be an SUV, and it'll be a bit later. It depends. I haven't driven any of Land Rover's new stuff. I know I don't want to buy a used car for daily transport at this point.

I don't want to have to repair anything anymore. I'd rather just drop a car off for service and be done with it. The DII is an exception, but it's not supposed to be a primary daily driver. The damned thing gets 8mpg, after all. Of course, I might get into double digits after this work is done.

The work won't pay for itself, but that's not really the point.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

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Retail on a D1 in 1998 was about $38,000. Adjusted for inflation, that equates to roughly $59,000 today.

Looking at it from the other direction, paying $48,000 for a D1 in 2019 would equate to about $30,600 in 1998 dollars.

That is pretty low depreciation.
 

kennith

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Owning old Land Rovers never pays for themselves...but that's not really the point, is it? ;)

That is certainly true.

I wonder how many of us would keel over if we actually lined up every receipt for our vehicles; purchase price, mods and all, and then added them up... :eek:

Raise your hand if you think you've spent at least $70,000. Raise both if you think you've cracked $100,000.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

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Retail on a D1 in 1998 was about $38,000. Adjusted for inflation, that equates to roughly $59,000 today.

Looking at it from the other direction, paying $48,000 for a D1 in 2019 would equate to about $30,600 in 1998 dollars.

That is pretty low depreciation.

I believe there was a price jump around the time the RRC became unavailable on lots