Alternate engine option for Disco 2

[helievacpilot]

These are the terms and conditions just for you:

http://www.lexusv8conversions.co.za/p/200877/lexus-v8-conversion--terms-&-conditions

Holy shit! 9500.00 (minimum) and terms like this? Good luck.

Oh yea, it's BEAR with us.

Don't even know where to start on this one:

1 TUNER BAKKIES ARE DESIGHNED TO LOAD 1TUN AND MAYBE TOW ANOTHER 1000KG SO IF YOU INTEND TO BUILD YOUR SELF A NICE TOW HORSE THAT YOU WANT TO USE FOR COMERCIAL PURPOSES OTHER WHAT THE VEHICLE DESIGHNED IS FOR! DONT COME KNOKKING ON OUR DOOR STEP IF YOU GET BREAKDOWNS LIKE OVERHEATING. IN MOST CASES LEXUS V8 CONVERSIONS ARE BEING BUILD AS TOYS!

 

[helievacpilot]

Curious. Your handle points to a LR shop in Ohio, but your "terms and conditions" link goes to a company in South Africa. I don't see any reference to Lexus V8 swaps on the Ohio web-site. Trading on someone else's good name maybe?

Whats up with that?

 

[helievacpilot]

60% down? Ohio company? South African website? I'm smelling a con!

 

[Trailhead4x4]

60% down? Ohio company? South African website? I'm smelling a con!

You're failing to pick up on the not so subtle hints of sarcasm here. Sorry, I guess there is no room for humor in this forum.

 

[rovercanus]

These are the terms and conditions just for you:

http://www.lexusv8conversions.co.za/p/200877/lexus-v8-conversion--terms-&-conditions

Those aren't terms and conditions, that is a list of things that will go wrong.

You're failing to pick up on the not so subtle hints of sarcasm here. Sorry, I guess there is no room for humor in this forum.

The only thing humorous is this statement.

So to clarify things, are you a U.S. representative of this company or have you had one of these conversions done? Or are you in fact just joking around and pulled up that site while searching for African midget porn (that was humor)?

 

[helievacpilot]

You're failing to pick up on the not so subtle hints of sarcasm here. Sorry, I guess there is no room for humor in this forum.

Sarcasm aside, your still asking someone to drop 10-13k (minimum, w/shipping) for marginal gains on a truck worth a third of that.

Yea, we all drop all kinds of cash on accessories for these trucks, but the engine is like the roof on a house. You just expect it to be there. You don't pay extra for it.

I applaud you if you truly have all the electronics playing nice. That seems to be the holy grail of D2 engine swaps.

I still would like to hear how your warranty works if I'm 1000 miles away?

 

[Trailhead4x4]

Yes, those terms and conditions are just for helipilot. I am not affiliated with the Lexus swappers, just showing what you can expect with others that also perform unique automotive services.

So I'm just putting it out here, there are other options for D2 when an engine goes south. Thanks for looking.

 

[Trailhead4x4]

Sarcasm aside, your still asking someone to drop 10-13k (minimum, w/shipping) for marginal gains on a truck worth a third of that.

Yea, we all drop all kinds of cash on accessories for these trucks, but the engine is like the roof on a house. You just expect it to be there. You don't pay extra for it.

I applaud you if you truly have all the electronics playing nice. That seems to be the holy grail of D2 engine swaps.

I still would like to hear how your warranty works if I'm 1000 miles away?

I'm not going to spend any time trying to convince you if your truck is or isn't worth a swap, that's for you to decide. Since you are obviously not inclined to ever go this route, I'm also not going to turn this thread into pages and pages of back and forth banter with you about hypothetical warranty situations.

 

[kcabpilot]

Well yer a helluva salesman I'll give you that

 

[helievacpilot]

I'm not going to spend any time trying to convince you if your truck is or isn't worth a swap, that's for you to decide. Since you are obviously not inclined to ever go this route, I'm also not going to turn this thread into pages and pages of back and forth banter with you about hypothetical warranty situations.

Well, aren't you a helluva nice guy. God knows, DiscoWeb doesn't get into back and forth banter. Thanks for rescuing us from that.

I'll make the warranty question crystal clear. You say you stand behind your work for 1 year. Is that parts?, labor?, or both?

If I'm here in CO and I need warranty work, how do you cover it?

Nothing hypothetical about that.

 

[AbnMike]

Are the motors rebuilt?

 

[HiSPL]

Jeez guys. Its like nobody here has ever had anything non-oem done to their car.

Its a chevy engine running on LR ecu. Of course there will be issues. But what will those issues be? BAd sensors? Motor problem? Cooling issue? Ecu issue? Grounding? Its all the same shit in a different bucket.

Go have a 69 Camaro built by a shop with an LS motor. Would you be bitching about what the warranty covers and how will you fix it when its across the country? NO. Because you are effectively buying a frankenstein hot rod. You have to expect a certain amount of troubles with it.

Same goes for this swap. Its a frankenstein. You get one of the most reliable modern engines produced placed into your high mileage used truck. The fact that ANY warranty comes with it is a bonus. Enjoy that peace of mind that if the camshaft goes flat after 11 months, YOU can talk to the garage that did it, and THEY can suggest a course of action for fixing the problem.

Most likely it means YOU get the truck back to them and THEY fix the problem. Then you go on your merry way.

 

[helievacpilot]

Jeez guys. Its like nobody here has ever had anything non-oem done to their car.

Its a chevy engine running on LR ecu. Of course there will be issues. But what will those issues be? BAd sensors? Motor problem? Cooling issue? Ecu issue? Grounding? Its all the same shit in a different bucket.

Go have a 69 Camaro built by a shop with an LS motor. Would you be bitching about what the warranty covers and how will you fix it when its across the country? NO. Because you are effectively buying a frankenstein hot rod. You have to expect a certain amount of troubles with it.

Same goes for this swap. Its a frankenstein. You get one of the most reliable modern engines produced placed into your high mileage used truck. The fact that ANY warranty comes with it is a bonus. Enjoy that peace of mind that if the camshaft goes flat after 11 months, YOU can talk to the garage that did it, and THEY can suggest a course of action for fixing the problem.

Most likely it means YOU get the truck back to them and THEY fix the problem. Then you go on your merry way.

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[Trailhead4x4]

Are the motors rebuilt?

Yes, each motor gets rebuilt as it is prepped for the Discovery.

 

[mgreenspan]

Damn. I got really excited about a Toyota 4.7 and 5 speed auto into a Land Rover. Nick Markiw who is on D90 is supposedly developing a DIY kit for gen IV LS swaps. He mentioned it when I was asking him questions about the swap and kit on the phone. I don't know if he finished it or what since he does all that stuff as a hobby. Self install and engine & transmission is $10-12k. That's with 6l80e or nv4500 for a Defender so I assume his kit would cost more since a DII is not simple. This price seems alright but I don't know about the 4.8 as an engine compared to the huge range of engines.

 

[JohnB]

Bet the warranty is better than half the Rover shops that put in sleeved rover blocks. This looks like a sweet option with a bullet proof engine. BMW folks have been doing these same swaps for some time with now off the shelf built motor mounts.
The great thing with how we do vehicle inspections where I live is they don't even open the hood so if the OBD plug isn't showing any codes it will be legal to drive.
Awesome. I'd consider this if I was planning on keeping it another 10 years but I'm not.

 

[helievacpilot]

I'd consider this if I was planning on keeping it another 10 years but I'm not.

Kind of my whole point. Somehow I doubt the D2 will achieve the "iconic" (if I may use that term loosely) status of the Defender and be worthy of that type of investment.

 

[HiSPL]

Yeah. The 9k installed setup might break the bank for most D2's. But a 2k diy kit might not. Sell a wire harness, tune, and a trans adaptor and let the end user source a 4.8 or 5.3 if they want.

 

[p m]

It is a fair price for the conversion and it is definitely more than marginal increase in reliability.
Whether one wants to keep the D2 alive that badly is a different question.

 

[Leadvagas]

Yeah. The 9k installed setup might break the bank for most D2's. But a 2k diy kit might not. Sell a wire harness, tune, and a trans adaptor and let the end user source a 4.8 or 5.3 if they want.

What you end up fighting is the market for Rovers, is just to small. I tried helping a friend get off the ground with a 300 TDI swap kit. There just aren't enough people who want to fix/mod cars these days. Just look at the hot rod and performance market. There used to be 20 plus aftermarket cam grinders that were nationally marketed. Now there are 10 and 7 of them belong to the same big out fit (i just picked numbers so there may be more or less you get my point).