Bet these guys could come up with something for the trans. As far the harness I bet you are using the Rover harness with extensions, etc...as well as getting a tuner to flash a different tune.
http://www.kennedyeng.com/vw_por.htm
Alternate engine option for Disco 2
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Bet these guys could come up with something for the trans. As far the harness I bet you are using the Rover harness with extensions, etc...as well as getting a tuner to flash a different tune.
http://www.kennedyeng.com/vw_por.htm
What the fuck. The guy offers an alternative. You do not want it, great. This is nonsense. For some folks who are going to pay someone to replace a blown engine, the LS is definitely more reliable than the Rover engine. I work on my own shit, poorly. Not for me, but might be for someone.
I've seen and drove one of the trailhead conversions.
I have chevy's and everything about them but this thing ran great,was smooth and was 100% emissions legal. They made every part in house needed for this swap. It's not a DIY kit. It looks factory but runs better.
Chuck gets it. Those who work on their own trucks may never do this but D2's will go back up in value and people will sink the money in them.
I have chevy's and everything about them but this thing ran great,was smooth and was 100% emissions legal. They made every part in house needed for this swap. It's not a DIY kit. It looks factory but runs better.
Chuck gets it. Those who work on their own trucks may never do this but D2's will go back up in value and people will sink the money in them.
So your from the "no losers / everyone get a trophy / participation ribbon" generation? You post on DWeb with something to sell? Well, hike up your skirt and prepare for all comers.
Could be, and not that I'll ever even own a D2 let alone do this conversion, I'd love to see some more pics of how it was done other than the ambiguous initial pic of a vehicle missing its hood.
Is the tune in the bosch ECU altered, or is it a "hope for the best" approach? I've done the opposite, slapped a few GM ECUs on non GM engines, and so far they all have required recalibrations to run anywhere close to acceptable and check engine light free. If he is able to recalibrate the bosch ecu, then he is kind of burying the lead here with the GM swap.
For me it was the ambiguous way it was all presented. Linking to a site in SA was plain out bull shit.
That's great he has an alternative but as we all know, on Dweb, if you take the defensive approach to trying to sell your product, you're going to get shit.
Not that I would ever do this, if I wanted a Chevy I would buy a Chevy. But I would like to see the guy stand up on his own with facts of what has been accomplished.
If you want to sell something, don't get in a pissing match.
IMO this is a great option. Emissions legal chevy swap? People have been asking for a reliable D2 engine for years, and finally have a chance to get one. I've seen people pay well over $10k for a new/rebuilt Rover V8 in their D2 when their's blows, so this is a no-brainer. Not sure why all the hate. It's hard to talk shit to someone and then expect them to give you an honest and positive response.
From a conversion kinda guy I, like others, have my own opinion. I started my rover life with a '71 IIA. It was restored over a couple of years and driven for 6 months. The screaming 88hp was something I couldn't live with after years of driving high horsepower street cars (primarily Camaros). Hell, I had a 68 Chevy 2wd truck with a worked 250 L6 that ate V8s for breakfast, but I digress. I was at the ground floor with Robert Davis when we started building Mercruiser 3.0 L4s for the series trucks. I went further and put a Vortec 4.3 into the IIA which proved to be a formidable machine for years. Roughly 10 years ago I started my LS1 conversion into the IIA (probably the first LS conversion attempted). While it sits 90% completed it will get done this year if all goes well. My '84 110 is getting a LT1/4L65E/LT230 stuffed into it. I've owned about 30 LRs. The majority retained stock drivelines. I am content with the Rover V8 in general and have no intention of repowering my DI's or DII's at this time. If someone wishes to pursue an alternative powerplant I have zero contention with that. Adapters are easy enough to fab as are motor mounts. The only problem I see is the idea of getting a kit out of a foreign country such as Africa. I have found time and time again that the proprietors of these businesses have no interest in boxing up a kit for overseas shipping .
Haha. The problem with this thread is the lack of links but the presence of a link to a different company as a joke.
While it would pass in many states, it's technically not legal. This using a GM engine with the Rover emissions equipment. In most places a legal swap requires that all of the emissions equipment from the donor vehicle be included and functional. In some states I'm guessing it would fail a visual inspection, if they have one.
Come on guys, are you serious? The link to South-African Lexus site was a joke. The guy's in Cleveland, as far as his profile tells.
This is a valid point. Emission equipment includes the ECU, so retaining Bosch engine management makes it not legal, at least in California.
I didn't look at the link nor did I give a ratz azz. I speak from experience trying to get information and order parts over the years from sources within the dark continent, europe and the aussies. It was more the LR stuff as I dealt with Datsun parts suppliers in Australia and New Zealand without hinderance. Getting back on subject the idea of engine swapping is nothing new. Within the performance constraints of the LR engine it is a decent powerplant, but there are better options if one wants to pursue it. Emissions meeting the engine or vehicle. whichever is the newer, are required for the conversion. It isn't that difficult, folks.
25 years of owning LRs and looking at options out there through that time period. The only supplier I'm aware of stateside would be Advance Adapters (selling Marks adapters out of Australia) although I've never had luck pinning down LR information from them but that would have been several years ago by this time. I also communicated with others overseas but they never seemed inclined to actually pack and ship their wares. Nick is the only other stateside guy creating a kit for a V8 conversion (focused solely on the LSx platform) that I'm aware of. As for me, I just design and fab or repurpose bits I have on hand these days. Occasionally, I will farm out work to a local metal shop or machine shop though.
Not at all. My point was, if you feel it is not for you then fine. The cost is relative to what someone wants or can afford. I have seen crappy posts, and that one was not bad. Some folks whine to whine. If it is a bad idea, then rip away.
So, what's the chance of getting the "black box" that makes all of the electrical play nice so we can choose our own engine?
Zero.
If you want emission-legal stuff, Nick Markiw makes the conversion for D1/RRC/D90/110, D2 in the works. It is more expensive, including LS3 and 6L80E, but you get a lot of mileage for that.
Other than that, this conversion is okay for places that don't have strict emissions checks. It would probably fly in 90% of smog check places in California, too - but if you come across a guy who's seen a Land Rover engine, you may fail and it'll be a nightmare afterwards.
Walter - you already have a GM engine in your truck, why do you care for not having another? GM is an absolute, undisputed, king of making the best components. They just couldn't make it into a vehicle if their life depended on it, which has been proven a few years ago.
There's no "black box" with this setup. The LS has the same firing order as the Rover V8 so the factory coils are used, the Rover throttle body and all the other Bosch F.I. stuff is adapted to the LS intake, the displacement is close enough that the original ECU plays along, I'd imagine maybe the injectors might need to be swapped out to get the signals in spec, and all the other LR sensors are fitted into the LS with adaptors where needed.