Anti-Lock problems

95discowhite

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The Anti-lock light had been coming on periodicly while driving, but it would always go back off. This happen about three weeks ago. Now the light is on all the time, how can I reset this light? I've searched and found a way to do it, but when i jumped out the purple and black wires on the plug under the drivers seat nothing happened. Is there an easy way to do this?
This is happining on a 95 Discovery.
thanks,
will
 
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DeMak

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Are you experiancing any other problems with the anti locks?
 

StevieLBCA

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There is a previous post on here about diagnosing ABS on early Discos. Since the light doesn't stay on all the time it is not a hard failure. Most common is a sensor out of place. I would start with removing and cleaning the sensors then see if the light comes back on.
 

Highmile

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How to test for bad ABS sensors?

For some reason, I can't start a new thread so I have added it to the back of an existing ABS thread. Please Help!

How does one go about finding out weather an ABS sensor is bad?

I have a 1996 Discovery that the ABS light is on in the dash. I have made the rounds and wiped clean all the ABS sensors in hopes of this fixing the problem, but the light remains on. When coming to a stop, if I have my front right wheel in sand or ice, it sounds and feels like the front wheel locks up and slides. So, I suspect the front right sensor is bad, but how do I verify that in fact it is the bad sensor?

I stopped by a autoparts store for them to plug in and see if there were any fault codes found, but no codes come up. Is there a different reader and/or plug-in someplace for the ABS? I have found a local guy parting out his Discovery, and he has all the ABS sensors available, but I would like to buy the correct one from him if possible.

Thanks!
Jeremy
 
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amg61

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Re: How to test for bad ABS sensors?

Highmile said:
For some reason, I can't start a new thread so I have added it to the back of an existing ABS thread. Please Help!

How does one go about finding out weather an ABS sensor is bad?

I have a 1996 Discovery that the ABS light is on in the dash. I have made the rounds and wiped clean all the ABS sensors in hopes of this fixing the problem, but the light remains on. When coming to a stop, if I have my front right wheel in sand or ice, it sounds and feels like the front wheel locks up and slides. So, I suspect the front right sensor is bad, but how do I verify that in fact it is the bad sensor?

I stopped by a autoparts store for them to plug in and see if there were any fault codes found, but no codes come up. Is there a different reader and/or plug-in someplace for the ABS? I have found a local guy parting out his Discovery, and he has all the ABS sensors available, but I would like to buy the correct one from him if possible.

Thanks!
Jeremy


go to this link: http://www.discoweb.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30204

read the blue writing in box #6, then for your 96 disco, follow the instructions in box #8.
 

Highmile

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Thanks for the link!

When I try the jump with the OBDII connector, I get no flashing of the ABS light. Am I doing something wrong? Should the key be on? off? Assuming that I might actually get a flashing light, where can I find fault codes?

Thanks!
 
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amg61

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Highmile said:
Thanks for the link!

When I try the jump with the OBDII connector, I get no flashing of the ABS light. Am I doing something wrong? Should the key be on? off? Assuming that I might actually get a flashing light, where can I find fault codes?

Thanks!

i think the key has to be in position # 2.

check this link for fault codes: http://www.discoweb.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30012


Chris St. Louis might chime in with the correct technique.
 

jrsimpson

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Highmile said:
When I try the jump with the OBDII connector, I get no flashing of the ABS light. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks!

Double-check the pin-outs on the OBD-II connector to ensure you're jumping the correct ones.
 

jrsimpson

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Highmile said:
... I am getting a fault code of 2-2 Any ideas of what this fault code is for?

That number does not appear in the ABS fault codes. Here is a link to the codes:
http://www.roversnorth.com/web/downloads/instructions/RR_ABSfault.pdf

Note the fault code sequence begins with a long flash (2.5 sec) followed by a short flash (0.5 sec) with a pauses of 2.5 sec in between. Next are the flashes corresponding to the first and second numbers of the fault code, again separated by pauses.
 

Highmile

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I checked the flash code again. I am 99% certain that the code is 2-2 which is not listed as a fault code. Are there more fault codes that can be found somehwere else?
 

jec

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In alldata's list for 95 D1s, 2-2 is listed as "RCP failure 1", where RCP is recirculation pump, otherwise known as the ABS pump. The "rectification checks" are listed as "1. Pump relay (doesn't switch off) 2. Wiring connection "Pump Monitor" to ECU". For whatever reason, alldata has codes 2-0 through 2-5 (the first two are ECU failures, the last 3 are pump failures) that don't seem to appear in any other list of codes that I've seen. I have no personal experience with this code, nor is there any further detail on the "rectification checks". Good luck.
John
 

Highmile

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John

Thanks for the reply. Do you think it is possible that a 96 Discovery would have the same fault codes as a 95 Discovery?

Next question to at least check these items...

Anybody know where the Pump Relay is located?

Anybody know where the Pump Monitor to ECU wiring is located? (This one sounds more complicated. Does anybody have any experience with this?)

Thanks!
 

jec

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Jeremy:
More questions than answers:

My guess would be that the codes are the same. I've never read anything about people encountering different sets of codes.

You know, if the pump relay was not switching off, you would think you would hear the pump continue to run...

I reread your description of the right front wheel locking up, and am trying to make sense of the 2-2 code in that light, and can't.

Do you now, or have you ever, heard the abs pump kick in and prevent wheel slip on other wheels in other situations? i.e., does the abs system function otherwise, and is the problem really related to only the right front?

You didn't say whether you had cleared the code and read any underlying codes per the method described in the link above. Did you? If not, you should - there could be many, many underlying codes, or many occurrences of the same code. Were there any other codes? Did the light go off when you cleared all the codes? If it did, did it come back on, and if so, under what circumstances? Another thing to watch for which pertains to 95 and may or may not to 96: When you first start the truck and the warning lights do their self-test, if there are no stored codes, the abs light will illuminate for a few seconds, then turn off for a split second (if you blink you'll miss it turning off), then reilluminate until you've gone 5mph or whatever the magic speed is. If you don't see that blink, there are still codes to be retrieved and cleared.

Note also in the link the note at the top of the table at the top of page 3 of the link that if the sensors were pushed home prior to the test, which I think you said you did, that the code will indicate a fault that has been rectified. I have no idea how it would show a rectified fault or whether it would disappear from memory. It may mean that the abs light would not be illuminated under normal driving (if the sensor was the only fault), but that the sensor fault code would still be in the memory.

I also took a look at my 95 electrical manual, and in the abs system schematic, nothing is labeled as a "pump monitor".
John
 

Highmile

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John

I misread the portion of the directions on exactly how to clear the memory. I was turning the key off at the wrong moment. For those of you reading this having similar issues, you have to turn the key off when he first solid ABS light lights up for the 2.5 seconds. I had about 6 codes stored in the memory. I simply cleared all the codes, the light is off, and the ABS is now working.

I guess my problem is solved. I don't understand why my ABS was not working before and now it is simply after clearing the codes. Would a fault code disable the ABS until it is cleared?

Thanks for your help!