Are you still friends?I prefer to drive diesels - three generations of diesel power and my LR3 which I sold to a friend.
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4 is absolutely crazy. I am down to 3 and hoping to be at 2 in the next week. Then 1 by the fall. Need to make room for a 110, new or old, just not sure yet.1 Rover is more than enough for me! It already takes up most of my free time. Cant imagine having 2 other trucks that always need something!
As for the Cherokee. Great engine, shitty axles and no "frame".
1 Rover is more than enough for me! It already takes up most of my free time. Cant imagine having 2 other trucks that always need something!
As for the Cherokee. Great engine, shitty axles and no "frame".
If more than one unicorn is called a Blessing, what's a group of Discos called?I like this better.
They arent a bad looking vehicle. If built correctly they are pretty badass. The problem is very few are actually built correctly. Most have been hacked by high school kids or rednecks.How does an XJ stand out beyond every other Explorer, 4Runner, etc SUV of the 90s? I always thought they looked like a YJ fucked a Winnebago.
How does an XJ stand out beyond every other Explorer, 4Runner, etc SUV of the 90s? I always thought they looked like a YJ fucked a Winnebago.
They arent a bad looking vehicle. If built correctly they are pretty badass. The problem is very few are actually built correctly. Most have been hacked by high school kids or rednecks.
So what about this one? Is it done right? If not you at least have to give him an A for effort.
I agree, that's a little over the top, but it seems to be done right for what it is. I'm having a hard time not making an offer on this. Got to many irons in the fire.That's too high, and defeats the purpose of the vehicle. It's a trail rig at that point.
On an XJ, a good sweet spot is about 3-4.5" of lift and 32-33" tires depending on wheel choice. That'll do everything it will stock, and everything you need to go anywhere you'd like.
This guy nailed the "tall XJ", depending upon spring, shock, and anti-roll bar stiffness; then fucked up with that sticker:
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This guy made a VERY poor wheel choice in every direction, but the lift is still right at the limit, at 4.5":
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This guy made an odd, yet acceptable wheel choice. It comes down to what he wants out of the vehicle; but this is the sex position for an XJ:
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It doesn't matter what vehicle you're talking about. People lift them too high and use tires that are too big. You don't need that shit, and it just fucks up everything else. Jeeps are notorious for it, but there are plenty of Land Rovers out there that handle like a sailboat with 500hp of outboard...
Now, given the obscene range of after-market parts available, the associated infinite ability to fuck things up, and the the number of well-sorted vehicles I've observed, the Toyota crowd seems to be the brightest of the bunch.
The Jeep guys just can't fucking help themselves, apparently, but again there are so many choices available, and people have to try so hard to be different, that most end up making the same mistakes along the way. They're at the family reunion with a big gulp and an open tailgate.
Many Rover enthusiasts fuck up for years and then finally figure it out, hoping everyone will believe they were always that clever. If you fuck up with a Rover, you had to try. There is not enough available after-market to easily screw yourself. As a result, given the number of fucked up Rovers and the tiny amount of parts...
We may well be the stupidest fucks in the industry.
This is kind of like that grail scene in Indiana Jones. Jeep and Toyota got the whole table to choose from, so it makes sense more people make bad choices. When Land Rover owners show up, there's only one cup, and yet they still manage to grab the wrong one.
Cheers,
Kennith
I agree, that's a little over the top, but it seems to be done right for what it is. I'm having a hard time not making an offer on this. Got to many irons in the fire.
4 is absolutely crazy. I am down to 3 and hoping to be at 2 in the next week. Then 1 by the fall. Need to make room for a 110, new or old, just not sure yet.
You have to remember that the XJ appeared before 4Runner, before Explorer, and before pretty much anything in that size.How does an XJ stand out beyond every other Explorer, 4Runner, etc SUV of the 90s? I always thought they looked like a YJ fucked a Winnebago.
This XJ is a rumbling wreck. It is lifted nearly 4" on stock control arms.If I was currently in the market for one, I'd be giving this one a higher than average amount of mental attention, as an example, if I couldn't go stock:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Jeep-Cherokee-No-Reserve-Low-Miles-Off-Road-4x4-Jeep-Cherokee/223592296557?hash=item340f23b06d:g:W4gAAOSw4yJdMRQc&LH_ItemCondition=3000|1000|2500
Someone needs to tell those dealers you only need about a quarter of those pictures at the absolute maximum. Some people take too few, and some take too many. Only a select few sellers take the appropriate number of pictures for a car. The rest are idiots.
There's usually a few nice Cherokees available on Ebay, but prices are slowly climbing; like everything meant for out and about use from the era.
Cheers,
Kennith
I am down to 3 and hoping to be at 2 in the next week
This XJ is a rumbling wreck. It is lifted nearly 4" on stock control arms.
Yeah, but I could keep the wheels and tires, and the rest of the vehicle seems to be in great shape.
Kennith... Lower control arms on the XJ Cherokee are 16.5" long. 4" of lift point them down at an angle of almost 14 degrees.
Just picture yourself hitting a speed bump at the mall - and consider what'll happen to the front of 3500-lb vehicle when the control arms are parallel to the ground, or angled down.
Now, upper control arms on the XJ are shorter. So top it off with wonders 4" lift does to caster.
Not taking it away from the little Cherokee, but consider that radius arms on a Classic/D1 are 52" long.