Anyone here that went from Pajero to Discovery?

[dfe]

I currently have a 96 Pajero, and time has arrived to look for new vehicle, and I have always been a Landy fan (yes even though I have never owned one!).

I am now looking at purchasing a new Discovery TD5 (current 2003 shape not the new shape), and is looking for some feedback as to experiences etc, and just general info.

I am very happy with the Pajero too, but don't like the new "plastic" ones that they are releasing, and personally believe the TD5 is a better vehicle, but would appreciate feedback from actual TD5 drivers. The Pajero is very able and have never let me down offroad.

Are the TD5 owners happy with it it? Would they replace it with another TD5?

Cheers

 

[Andrew Homan]

OK I'll ask since no one else will. Whats a Pajero? Sorry some of us Americans don't know all the vehicles around. I bet you get an overwhelming response for getting the LR though

 

[El_Cid_2000]

My dad had one when he was living in Croatia for work. It's a diesel Mitsubishi that looks like a Montero type of vehicle. We had his on some really f'ed up roads/trails in Croatia and it still went like the dickens. It was good on diesel and went fairly well on the highway. I wouldn't mind having one here as a farm/hunt camp vehicle. It's not a LR but cool none the less. Try this for some info http://www.pocuk.com/ A "P-Web" if you will.

Michael

 

[ShaunP]

They come as a V6 petrol in OZ as well the new ones won't touch any type of LR off road. The current Di-D diesel does have class leading on road performance. I think they are called a Showgun in some places

 

[Alyssa]

One of our friends went from a Discovery to a Pajero...

 

[Iron Boots]

We have an '03 Montero Sport as well... does that count?

 

[SandMan]

I don't own a TD5, so I can't comment.

But I have experience in both the Pajero and Disco and I have this humble insight:
The older Pajero and older Disco are very much equal. Disco being slightly easier to modify and work on, and the Pajero being more comfortable on road.

The newer Pajero sucks compared to the newer Disco (2002 models in particular).
Even the newer Patrols (Nissan) are going plastic and with cheap ass parts. I always loved the Patrol, but not anymore. Forget about the new Land Cruisers (Toyota) too. It just sucks all round (gas and off road).

Of course I always loved the Disco, before that LR3 thing came out. If you can get a good deal on a TD5, I'd say snatch it up.


SandMan

 

[dfe]

96 Pajero

Sorry I forgot the the models are not international! Here's a pic of my 1996 Mitsubishi Pajero.

 

[gooddoggomez]

I've had my TD5 fo 2 years now and reckon its great. Good milage around town and even better on the Hwy. Good low down torque however it doesn't have as much grunt as the V8. With a few tweeks you can increase the power ie: K&N filter, a visit to www.davisperformance.com for an engine remap (AU$850). These will get you about 20-30% more power out of a TD5.

As Big Ed said, there's nothing left out there now except for the 04 Disco and the Patrol.

Good Luck and let us know how ya go.

cheers

Greg

 

[SandMan]

Greg,

Put a shrimp on the barbie for me ... great avitar!
Now that we fly to BNE, what is there to do down under?
I got a trip in early January.

SandMan

 

[Rocky]

Pajero = Shogun = Montero

Minor differences such as engines, 2 v four doors, trims, to reflect different preferences around the world
Montero Sport is a completely diffferent animal based on their Pickup up (and it shows)

 

[gsitts]

In the states they are monteros, I still own the 1991 that I drove before I got the D1 They are good on the road OK on the trail and make LR look cheap when you take them to the dealer. I still get sticker shock when I have to buy it a part.
Hope this helps
Gordon

 

[Swift]

I have an opinion here as I learnt to 4WD in my father's Pajero (really old, boxy type) and now he has the same model as the one pictured above, while I drive an 04 Disco TD5. If 4WD ability is what you are after, then very little will come close to the 04 Disco with solid axles, strong chasis, centre diff lock and traction control. Even my father can't believe how capable my Disco is. The Pajero doesn't even come close! If you are after raw power, then the petrol model is for you, but if you can cope with a little less power, the TD5 (with auto box) is really the pick of the litter. The diesel engine pushes out amazing torque, and the auto box holds the gears in the peak torque range while off-roading. It also has great fuel economy, with my best being around 9litres per 100km on a trip from Sydney to Noosa. Around town I get around 11litres per 100km.

I actually feel a little sad for American LR Disco owners that they aren't offered the diesel option. After always having petrol cars and 4WD's, I'll never go back after owning a diesel Land Rover. A diesel powered vehicle is really the only sensible choice for touring the Australian outback.

As an aside...did someone above really ask if there was anything to do down under?!?! We have a country the size of the United States with the population of New York City. That means lots of open space to explore, and the best way to do that is with a well equipped Disco TD5.

 

[dfe]

I have always enjoyed the power of the Pajero, but at 6km/liter petrol consumption I really don't mind slowing down a bit for the TD5, the other thing is my Pajero is an automatic petrol, so offroad, specially with long downhills I have very little compression, so have to go down on brakes which can become really dangerous.

Other than slowing down I personally think the Discovery is a awesome drive! (I will be getting the TD5 manual though and not auto).

Cheers from South Africa

 

[ShaunP]

Greg,

Put a shrimp on the barbie for me ... great avitar!
Now that we fly to BNE, what is there to do down under?
I got a trip in early January.

SandMan

We call them prawns really, the shrimp thing was just for the overseas ads, we seldom cook em on the barbie either. Anyway hire a 4x4 and head up to the Great sand national park for a look (2 hours north of Brisbane). Hit the beach at Noosa north shore and drive 80km up the beach to Double island point. Look out for the police at this time of the year as they will be looking to catch people exceeding the speed limit on the beach(school holiday time) so follow the speed signs. Camp where you feel like it. go across the inland track to Rainbow beach and down to Inskip point, take the barge over to Fraser Island and stay for a bit. Fraser island is the largest sand island in world, is a national park and quite beautfull if you like that sort of thing. No proper roads just sand tracks and rain forest, endless white beaches etc great spot. Try searching for Great sandy national park, cooloola beach and Fraser island on the web.

 

[Trev]

OK I'll ask since no one else will. Whats a Pajero? Sorry some of us Americans don't know all the vehicles around. I bet you get an overwhelming response for getting the LR though

Ever seen a Dodge Raider?

 

[JeffM]

I actually feel a little sad for American LR Disco owners that they aren't offered the diesel option. After always having petrol cars and 4WD's, I'll never go back after owning a diesel Land Rover. A diesel powered vehicle is really the only sensible choice for touring the Australian outback.

Well we are taking up a collection for needy Disco owners here in the states - any donated TD5's will be gladly accepted

Jeff

 

[drivenbydiscovery]

Alyssa wrote: "One of our friends went from a Discovery to a Pajero..."

ok, i'll confess. it was me. but this was not at all by choice (it is my island car here in st. maarten).
and, do know, that not a moment goes by - not one - that i do not lust over every disco i see here.

that being said, the coolest thing about the pagero is the inside; it has an altimeter (why i don't know), clinometer, temperature in/out, and many other useful features such as reclining rear seats, fold-down armrests for rear seats, etc, etc that i would love to have in my discovery. but, i'm happier in my disco without these things ...

time has also not been kind to the pajero. i don't abuse it (too much), but it is falling apart, and (not so slowly) rusting away. this is probably more than anything due to the wet st. maarten weather, but still, it's sad.

offroad, the discovery wins. no question. not that the pajero is terrible or anything, but, it's no discovery. it handles itself adequately in all that st. maarten has to offer, but just doesn't give that feeling of sturdiness and dependability (not that dependability and land rover's go hand-in-hand ...).

so which of these two would i choose on a trek through the outback? well, i think the above leaves little doubt. my first trip to the tip of AU was in a diesel 109. www.drivenxdiscovery.com the next (and in fact ANY next trip) will be in a diesel disco.

so, to sum up, pajero - bad, discovery - mmmmmmmmmmmmm



hope this helps. kind regards,

dom

- re-entering the world of discovery, as it were, in 6 days (that is, spending christmas in the states, and once again driving a disco!)

 

[Alyssa]

Yippee! Dom's coming home!!!

 

[ShaunP]

so which of these two would i choose on a trek through the outback? well, i think the above leaves little doubt. my first trip to the tip of AU was in a diesel 109. www.drivenxdiscovery.com the next (and in fact ANY next trip) will be in a diesel disco.

so, to sum up, pajero - bad, discovery - mmmmmmmmmmmmm


So Dom when are you coming back to do the Kimberly in a TDI. Most people don't know whats here in Oz not even Australians, they all want to go and see old castles and churchs in the Uk or go to LA and sit on a beach in California (like there are no good beaches here). You can drive a couple of hours north of Brisbane and go to Fraser Island but in real terms very few people do, Far north Queensland is gods country I reckon as is the north of Western Oz. I haven't been to the Kimberly yet but one of the mates and his family did a 10 week trek from Brisbane to the Kimberly via the Gibb River road in his TDI Disco in May this year. Brad reckons he could of spent 6 months there easy. In the 80s-90s I spent most of my time working for Telstra (phone company) all over Qld installing/maintaining Radio transmitter sites all over. The life of a brand new Toyota landcruiser up the cape was about 12 months. The A/c used to last about 8 weeks of driving before the alloy lines would work harden and crack. The wagons would break the chassis just forward of the fire wall at between 8-12months. The bosses couldn't understand why we broke so many.

Great story on your web site.