Applying hood blackout?

DiscoveryXD

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I just got my Vigg Designs decal and i need to remove the old one to put it on. I'm just gonna use a hair dryer to help warm the hood and remove it, unless anyone has any advice?

but what i really wnat to know is what's the best way to put the new one on? Some soapy water is what I've heard, but how much soap? ratio maybe? And it came stuck on a large piece of paper, so i'm assuming i just wet down the hood, flop the sticker on, center it, squeegy out all the air bubbles, then carefully remove the backing.
 

emmodg

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You don't need a whole lot of soap. Like a few drops in a plant sprayer bottle. Just keep the surface wet AT ALL TIMES. It's much better to have tto much water and have it slide around like crazy than to have too little!
 

emmodg

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Yes. Small air bubbles wil also "bake out" in the sun over time. (Small ones, big ones will have to be punctured w/ a pin.)
 

Lake_Bueller

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I'm having a buddy make me a custom one at his sign company. It will have the LR logo cut out of the center. It the prototype looks good, we may sell a limited quantity.
 

specops1526

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I thought the paper backing was covering the adhesive? isn't that the side that goes down rather than up? I just got mine too but didn't have time before I left town to really take a look at it.
 

Slappy

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specops1526 said:
I thought the paper backing was covering the adhesive? isn't that the side that goes down rather than up? I just got mine too but didn't have time before I left town to really take a look at it.
Yes, the paper is covering the adhesive. It a big sticker.

Steve
 

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There is a thing you can get at better body shop supply places that will remove the old sticker and not hurt the paint underneath. It fits in a drill or die tool and looks like a buffing wheel of sorts...several varieties and such of these out there. I prefer 3m products but they all work well and are specifically for sticker removal- a hair dryer or even a heat gun not always able to get what you wanna do done....you might wanna look into getting such a tool........... If you do manage to get the sticker off w heat [IMHO hair dryer VERY doubtful] body shop supply outlets also sell professional adhesives removers made for the job. You want a good surface to lay that sticker over as in the end is only gonna look [and last] as good as whats underneath it.
 

rrover88

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Along with using a heart gun and plastic scraper, look for some aircraft decal remover at an auto supply store - its great for 3M adhesive. Depending on how long the old decal was on and how much damage it has will dictate the best attack. After removing the old decal, be sure the hood is perfectily clean with no adhesive residue then spray down the hood with the soap mixture and spray the adhesive side of the decal after removing the backing sheet - this will allow you to actually move the entire decal. Make sure the water has evaporated from under the decal before hitting the road. Good luck!
 

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Hey Matt when I installed my Vigg I didn't have any help at the time and my patience being what it is I rigged a garden hose up over the windshield with the wide angle sprayer setting. It was like it was raining lightly all over the hood. I then took a chance and peeled the backing off all at once and flung it on the hood, moved it in place and started squeegeeing the hell out of it. I was lucky as I saw it like cutting a diamond, you got one good chance at getting it right. Tucking it in behind the aft edge of the hood was tricky. You'll see what I mean. The curve of the hoods trailing edge can make it tricky.

Cheers,

Mike
 

DiscoveryXD

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so the paper is covering an adhesive? I can get the hood wet/soapy, get the adhesive side wet, place it, and when the water dries up it will stick to the hood?

I doubt i'll get it perfect the first time i lay it down so being able to move it a tad after i lay it down would be really nice!!
 

flyfisher11

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DiscoveryXD said:
so the paper is covering an adhesive? I can get the hood wet/soapy, get the adhesive side wet, place it, and when the water dries up it will stick to the hood?

I doubt i'll get it perfect the first time i lay it down so being able to move it a tad after i lay it down would be really nice!!

Yeah it's sticky. Just keep the hood wet as hell and keep it that way while you get it in place. Once in place kill the water and start squeegeeing the hell out of it. It would be best if you can get someone to help you lay it down initially. I took a chance and got lucky doing it by myself.

Cheers,

Mike
 

varova87

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DISCODOWN said:
There is a thing you can get at better body shop supply places that will remove the old sticker and not hurt the paint underneath. It fits in a drill or die tool and looks like a buffing wheel of sorts...

its called an eraser wheel, and they are very handy. used them all the time to take the adhesive off cars when customers came in to get the rain gaurds over their windows replaced.
 

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Here are the directions: http://www.viggdesigns.com/gallery/LandRover/roverhoodinstall

Clean the hood really well, then remove the backing on the blackout.. use the soapy water mixture to spray both the back of the blackout (adhesive side) and hood of your truck... put it on, squeege it, try to get out all bubbles... like said above, if you cant get them out, prick them with a pin or xacto... It really does help having a 2nd person to help you since its big..

By the way, if anyone's interested in buying a blackout, we're having a sale this month... 20% off all LR stuff on viggdesigns.com, use coupon code: HOLIDAY ... expires 31st of this month.
 

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The only extra advice I would add is to not get the backing wet before you peel it off. The backing gets soft and it tears leaving some of the paper behind. Huge pain in the ass to get off. Use a spray bottle with alittle soap and water, wet the hood and adhesive side of the decal, slide it into place and carefully squeegee the water out from under the decal. It goes easier with two people.
Good Luck!
 

specops1526

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So what should be used to clean the hood really well? Any special type of cleaner or is regular car wash soap good?

What kind of soap are you using in the Soapy Water Mixture for the application? How much should be added to the mixture?
 

DiscoveryXD

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well, i'm gonna have to find me one of those wheels, cause that crap isn't coming off. It only breaks apart in small pieces with a heat gun.

how does it peel off the decal without hurting the paint? just doesn't seem possible...
 

rmuller

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specops1526 said:
So what should be used to clean the hood really well? Any special type of cleaner or is regular car wash soap good?

What kind of soap are you using in the Soapy Water Mixture for the application? How much should be added to the mixture?


Regular car wash soap is good.. I usually just use an alcohol mixture to clean it up... as for the soapy water... basically a spray bottle filled with water with a few drops of soap.. not very soapy at all..


As for getting it off.. heat gun definitely helps, if you have a gummy residue, denatured alcohol or Afta cleaning fluid works well...