Bees disappearing

Matt Taylor

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According to Einstein, if the bees go away we'll have only 4 years left on the planet.

Maybe this is why the mayan calendar ends in 2011.

From this article on Colony Collapse Disorder:

http://neighbors.newstimeslive.com/opinion/column.php?id=1031762

"Researchers have found the disorder in 22 states nationwide, including Connecticut, Georgia, Oklahoma and California, although neither Kettle nor Gaeta said they've heard of any Connecticut beekeepers whose hives have been afflicted.

Finding out what's going on is important not just to stinging insect lovers, devotees of bee venom therapy, or those who sweeten their morning tea with honey. Bees are unsung workers of the agricultural world, who busily pollinate the world's cornucopia -- fruit and nut trees, berry bushes and vegetable plants. Their value to U.S. agriculture may be worth $15 billion a year. "

hmmn, where's my tinfoil hat?
 
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gil stevens

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here man, this ones even better.. start preparing your bunker :rofl:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index984.htm

Putin Orders Russian ?Queens? Home, Decimates US Bee Industry




In reviewing reports from our Kremlin sources today I could not help but call to mind the words of the great German scientist Albert Einstein, and who when asked what kind of weapons World War III would be fought with, Einstein responded, ?I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.?
These thoughts of mine were due to the information contained in these reports relating to the decimation of the domestic bee industry in the United States, and as we can read about as reported by the Mongabay.Com News Service in their article titled "Mysterious outbreak killing millions of bees", and which says:
"An mysterious outbreak is causing the deaths of millions of honeybees in 22 states according to an entomologist from the University of Montana.
Jerry Bromenshenk says that Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) is "causing agricultural honeybees nationwide to abandon their hives and disappear."
?Individual beekeepers are really taking a beating,? Bromenshenk said. ?A guy down in Oklahoma lost 80 percent of his 13,000 colonies in the last month. In Florida, there are a whole lot of people facing 40, 60 and 80 percent losses. That?s huge.?
"With CCD, most adult honeybees abandon a hive and disappear, leaving the queen and a remnant of younger bees. The malady also is characterized by uncapped brood -- when the cells of young bees in the pupa stage are not covered and protected by their older sisters -- probably because most of the adult bees have left. Dead adult bees aren't found near the hive; they are just gone," explains a news release from the University of Montana."
Now, it is very important to understand that these bees are not dead, or dying, they are simply ?disappearing?, and which led me to remember my studies under Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist Pjotr Garjajev in the 1980?s, and where a great deal of Soviet effort was then being put into the saving of the American domestic bee industry due to devastating losses caused by varroa mites.
To the success of the Soviets efforts we can read as reported by the Science News, Vol. 154, No. 6, August 8, 1998, and which said:
"Federal scientists hope to establish a Russian dynasty throughout the United States?one populated by the progeny of Asian-hatched honeybees, renowned for their resistance to mites.
That goal moved a step closer last week. The first generation of bees produced by 90 expatriate queens, just released from quarantine, has significantly outperformed U.S. members of their species, Apis mellifera, in resisting infestation by varroa mites.
http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc98/8_8_98/fob1.htm
This parasite, which first turned up among U.S. honeybees 11 years ago, has taken a devastating toll. Feeding off their hosts' blood, the energy-sapping mites weaken and soon kill the bees (SN: 2/8/97, p. 92). Moreover, mites in four states have developed resistance to the one pesticide approved for use against them, notes Thomas E. Rinderer of the U.S. Department of Agriculture honeybee laboratory in Baton Rouge, La.
Such pesticide-resistance leaves beekeepers defenseless, he says. Indeed, he notes, because wild honeybees never received treatment, "they're gone." Though swarms that stray from beekeepers' colonies may survive a few months in the wild, he says, these days "they're doomed, too."
The parasites develop on bee pupae. Once a bee emerges as an adult, it normally lives 30 days or more, depending upon how hard it works. But an infested worker may survive only 3 to 5 days in its sickly state. The mites, which also attack adults, reproduce on a 10-day cycle, allowing them to quickly kill off a colony.
In the new tests, Rinderer's team exposed 90 parasitefree colonies to mites. Each colony contained a Russian-hatched queen and up to 60,000 of her offspring. About 12 weeks later, the USDA scientists tallied how many mites infested the adults and pupae.
From previous data on U.S. colonies, "we would have expected an 11.4-fold increase in mites during the test period," Rinderer says. Instead "we got an average 3.9-fold increase?and many colonies had no increase. This is extremely exciting."
Though many honeybee populations along the Primorski region of Russia's Pacific coast have had a century to develop natural resistance to the varroa mite, bees who arrived there more recently show little ability to coexist with the parasite. The current tests were designed to identify and eliminate these weaker bees from any U.S. breeding program.
Imported a year ago, the queens, which can live up to 3 years, are becoming quite elderly. Colonies headed by their daughters, however, are now beginning a new wave of tests to compare them directly with U.S. hives. The queens, which mate only once, carry sperm from descendants of Primorski-hatched bees. By next spring, Rinderer's team plans to begin distributing mated Russian queens to beekeepers for experiments to evaluate how well they pollinate plants and produce honey under field conditions.
The Russian queens are fueling considerable excitement among apiarists, says Troy Fore of the American Beekeeping Federation in Jesup, Ga. The cost of treating colonies with the varroa miticide can eat up 20 percent of a beekeeper's gross earnings?or about 80 percent of the intended profit, he says. Bees with Russian genes should reduce the need for some or all of these expensive treatments, he adds."
The Russian queens also "offer to throw the [mite] resistance gene into [stray] bees," reestablishing a self-sustaining feral community, notes beekeeper Kim Flottum, who edits Bee Culture in Medina, Ohio.
Unknown to the Americans, however, relating to the saving of their domestic bee industry by the massive introduction of Russian Queen Bees was the Soviet research on bees that built upon the research being carried out by W?rzburg Zoologists, and which resulted in their groundbreaking study titled "Bursts of magnetic fields induce jumps of misdirection in bees by a mechanism of magnetic resonance"
Now, without making this a pure science report, and which is not our intention as we only seek to provide general information that can lead to your further research, these scientists discovered that ?bursts at a frequency of 250 Hz oriented parallel to the field-lines of the EMF induce unequivocal jumps of misdirection of up to +10?? in colonies of Russian bees, and which is highly significant should ?someone? wish to destroy bee colonies by causing their workers to ?disappear? and not be able to find their way back to heir hives.
(It is important to note that domestic bees that have lost their domestic hives are able to produce a new feral queen and continue to survive in the wild.)
The greater significance of these events, though, rests with the 250 Hz range (The hertz (symbol: Hz) is the SI unit of frequency. Its base unit is s-1 (also called inverse seconds, or 1/s). In English, hertz is used as both singular and plural. One hertz simply means one per second.), and which not only will cause Russian domesticated bees to lose their ability to re-find their domestic hives, but is the frequency attributed to causing great anger in human beings.
It has long been known that both the United States and the Soviets have conducted decades long research into the use of mind control technologies, with the greater aim being towards the control of their own citizens, but also towards its uses in warfare, and which these events appear to be coming into line with past predictions of the unintended consequences should these esoteric be unleashed.
What is occurring in the United States today relating to hundreds of millions of their domestic bees disappearing, and who are descendents of their original Russian Queen ancestors, is that their Military Leadership has unleashed upon their citizens through their propaganda media organs (television/radio) the ?fearful? 250 Hz signal intended to ?anger? their population in the buildup towards war with Iran.
But! One of the unintended consequences produced by their provocative actions against their own citizens is that they have likewise ?signaled? the demise of their agricultural industry through the decimation of their domestic bee industry.
Is it indeed possible that the Soviets in the 1980?s were foresighted enough to plant this ticking time bomb in the very heart of America should the United States at some future date become intent upon Global domination?
A simple phone call to our Kremlin sources provided this cryptic answer, ?The ?Honey Plot? does exist, Putin himself gave the order.?
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/

 

MarkP

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Matt Taylor said:
According to Einstein, if the bees go away we'll have only 4 years left on the planet.

Maybe this is why the mayan calendar ends in 2011.

So it's not global warming? I mean climate change. The Mayans didn't have SUV's or Disco's to predict 13.0.0.0.

Well at least I don't think they did :D
 

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MarkP said:
So it's not global warming? I mean climate change. The Mayans didn't have SUV's or Disco's to predict 13.0.0.0.

Well at least I don't think they did :D


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Matt Taylor said:
According to Einstein, if the bees go away we'll have only 4 years left on the planet.

Maybe this is why the mayan calendar ends in 2011.

From this article on Colony Collapse Disorder:

http://neighbors.newstimeslive.com/opinion/column.php?id=1031762

"Researchers have found the disorder in 22 states nationwide, including Connecticut, Georgia, Oklahoma and California, although neither Kettle nor Gaeta said they've heard of any Connecticut beekeepers whose hives have been afflicted.

Finding out what's going on is important not just to stinging insect lovers, devotees of bee venom therapy, or those who sweeten their morning tea with honey. Bees are unsung workers of the agricultural world, who busily pollinate the world's cornucopia -- fruit and nut trees, berry bushes and vegetable plants. Their value to U.S. agriculture may be worth $15 billion a year. "

hmmn, where's my tinfoil hat?

What effect on the populations has the africanized bee had? From what I remember reading in the 90's, the africanized bees were killing off the euro-imported honey bees.
 

garrett

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hmmm. our bees are still here. i think we have about 50-100 hives all over the farm that are harvested for their honey. i better go check to see if they are still out there. i am getting worried now. haha

i asked sarah about this last night. most bees in the north are bought every year from southern locations. most of those bees have been bred with Africanized bees, but for the most part remain very docile. depending on the winter conditions, bees in the north will not survive and the honey suppliers need to buy new bees (again ususally from the south) to keep their hives with the proper numbers.

so depending on your location and how harsh the winter was will depend on how many are actually dying off. there are plenty of other environmental factors that play into this, but my brain was starting hurt.

bees are damn cool though. ever see them swarm? freaked me out the first time i saw 20,000 bees hanging in a garage.
 
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noee

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Most of the bees dying around here are dying from the mites and I believe they've also identified some sort of fungus as well, not quite as detrimental to the hive. There are 100s of hives around here and the mites have been a problem but there have been no cases yet of the "disappearing" situation that I've heard of. From what I've read, CA does have a real problem on their hands, however.
 

garrett

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i'll have to get a count of how many hives were replaced the past few weeks. but i know we did lose a few to the cold temps that we got for some prolonged periods.
nothing abnormal though.

the summer will affect them just as much. no rain=fewer clover blooms, etc. and with that you get shitty honey. very bland.
 

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here's something I just read today:

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece

Some scientists feel that our cellular usage is causing havoc with the bee population. To be fair this is one of several options scientists are looking at. This whole situation could also be a very large problem for us.



They are putting forward the theory that radiation given off by mobile phones and other hi-tech gadgets is a possible answer to one of the more bizarre mysteries ever to happen in the natural world - the abrupt disappearance of the bees that pollinate crops. Late last week, some bee-keepers claimed that the phenomenon - which started in the US, then spread to continental Europe - was beginning to hit Britain as well.
 

JamesWyatt

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This stuff sounds schizophrenic, like the ramblings of that guy who thought that we have the technology to control hurricanes and that the Russians were responsible for Katrina.