Bush assasinated
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I like it.... It's just one more thing the Bush Haters do to show how mentally ill they are!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208943,00.html
It's a pattern failure.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208943,00.html
It's a pattern failure.
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EValP
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Why can someone make a movie about the killing someone else but not the President? There are hundreds of movies out that depict the murder of people, granted most are fictional characters, but there are movies about the killing of real people, both drama and documentary.
The movie Independence Day depicted the assault on the human race including a sequence of the destruction of the White House.
Its been a while since I saw that movie but I don't remember it eluding to the administration NOT being in it when it blew up.
Also, in the movie, The Sum Of All Fear, the was an explosion, tearing apart the helicopter the President was in, almost killing him if I remember correctly.
I know, that there are major differences between these movies and one showing the direct murder of the President but I also believe there are similarities and peoples initial reaction is to be outraged. We are exposed to murder and killing in media everyday, one depicting this act on our President is no different in my mind than one on any other human being.
We do have a right to free speech and this is just that. I am not saying it is right, I am saying that if we allow it one way, we have to allow it the other way as well or we are hypocrites. If I had it my way, our children, and the adults for that matter, would not have access to the violence we see now.
My .02.
The movie Independence Day depicted the assault on the human race including a sequence of the destruction of the White House.
Its been a while since I saw that movie but I don't remember it eluding to the administration NOT being in it when it blew up.
Also, in the movie, The Sum Of All Fear, the was an explosion, tearing apart the helicopter the President was in, almost killing him if I remember correctly.
I know, that there are major differences between these movies and one showing the direct murder of the President but I also believe there are similarities and peoples initial reaction is to be outraged. We are exposed to murder and killing in media everyday, one depicting this act on our President is no different in my mind than one on any other human being.
We do have a right to free speech and this is just that. I am not saying it is right, I am saying that if we allow it one way, we have to allow it the other way as well or we are hypocrites. If I had it my way, our children, and the adults for that matter, would not have access to the violence we see now.
My .02.
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Those were just general presidents in those movies. This new one shows W taking a shot. More specific....
Yep, if everyone hates us and our CNC so much...then why do we play?
Dear UN,
It's time your you and your band of pussified crooks to leave. Have fun with Iran / N. Korea. Sec Anan; have fun writing your letters and speaking publicly about sanctioning Iran. PS, you owe us a few $million in diplomatic plate abuse. Have a nice day.
Dear Iran,
See attached letter to the UN. You will no longer hear the US whining about your quest for nuke power and we will not participate in pussified sanctions. Your country is all grown up now, which means you will understand this warning....fuck with the U.S. and we will turn your economic development time table back about....oh let's say 2000 years with the friendly B-2 and all of it's gifts. Have a nice day.
Dear Iraq,
We cleaned out your WMD / kurd gassing dictatorship govt. It's time you act on your own. All of our troops are leaving now. Have a nice day.
Dear France,
In case you didn't get it...Hezbollah are the ones that kidnapped the Israeli Soldiers. Have fun guarding the border between Lebonan and Israel. PS. Yes we are selling weapons to Israel. Have a nice day.
Dear Mr. Chavez,
We know you are not very fond of us. But let's bury the hatchet and and make a deal. How about we buy all of your oil and make you richer than the Middle East. We'll even throw in some F-16's as a gesture of our good will. Have a nice day.
Okay, I have pretty much solved the world's problems for the US. I am now off for another cup of coffee.
Dear UN,
It's time your you and your band of pussified crooks to leave. Have fun with Iran / N. Korea. Sec Anan; have fun writing your letters and speaking publicly about sanctioning Iran. PS, you owe us a few $million in diplomatic plate abuse. Have a nice day.
Dear Iran,
See attached letter to the UN. You will no longer hear the US whining about your quest for nuke power and we will not participate in pussified sanctions. Your country is all grown up now, which means you will understand this warning....fuck with the U.S. and we will turn your economic development time table back about....oh let's say 2000 years with the friendly B-2 and all of it's gifts. Have a nice day.
Dear Iraq,
We cleaned out your WMD / kurd gassing dictatorship govt. It's time you act on your own. All of our troops are leaving now. Have a nice day.
Dear France,
In case you didn't get it...Hezbollah are the ones that kidnapped the Israeli Soldiers. Have fun guarding the border between Lebonan and Israel. PS. Yes we are selling weapons to Israel. Have a nice day.
Dear Mr. Chavez,
We know you are not very fond of us. But let's bury the hatchet and and make a deal. How about we buy all of your oil and make you richer than the Middle East. We'll even throw in some F-16's as a gesture of our good will. Have a nice day.
Okay, I have pretty much solved the world's problems for the US. I am now off for another cup of coffee.
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sisukid1975
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EValP said:
And my impression is that this is more of a "what were to happen if...." thing.
There was actually a really good article in The Atlantic last year, called "Countdown to a Meltdown," which was a hypothetical "what if" article written in form of a historical document from the year 2016 about how another great depression type event could happen if certain things were to occur. (http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200507/fallows) Doesn't mean the writer wants it to, but it's a way of asking people to examine things a little closer.
Is it unpatriotic to sit and wonder what might happen if some far off remote thing like this did occur? How would we cope with it? What could happen? What could we do to stop the worst from happening?
The Pentagon does it all the time. Running little war games based on hypothetical situations. "If this happened, what would we do? What could it affect?" Half our war plans are based on exercises like these. By examining the hypothetical, we can actually learn to better respond in the event something catastrophic did happen.
F18Guy said:
You forgot Castro!
"Dear Mr. Castro, let's let bygones be bygones. We really like your cigars! Your new best friend, the US."
EValP said:
Ok, second, in Independence Day, the administration escaped on AF1 and landed at Area-51, and the President led the remaining peoples to victory over the alien invasion.
Then first, I think you pegged it, there is a different approach that is normally taken in this situation. Usually, like in ID or the Sum of All Fears, the President is a fictitious President, and in that class of movie, you're going for entertainment. Those aren't really big political statements, they're for mass consuption at teh summer box office.
Then, you could have a political agenda instead of trying to make a blockbuster. Again, you could set up the movie to be making a point, but using fictional characters... everyone knows who you're referring to, but it's not as blatant as saying "I wanna shoot you!" (How would a liberal do that if they ban gus?)
The other scenario you mentioned, a documentary, is then historical in nature. You're just retelling the story. It'd be the same thing talking about Lincoln in a Civil War movie, it would be expected.
This one takes a real, currently-sitting President, and hypotheses that he was shot, in order to make a political point. This is America, you have the right to say such, but that doesn't mean that it isn't just tacky to do so. It could almost be taken as an invite to some of the less-stable audience members to do such, which would be illegal.
Mi dos centavos, FWIW.....
rovercanus said:
I have to disagree there. Our laws aimed at Cuba actually keep the quality of cigars very high. If they had to mass produce to meet the "new" demand, two things would happen. (1) Cigar quality would go to crap, or (2) Cigar prices would go up because Cuba could not supply demand.
Of course I have no knowledge of Habano cigars, but I did sleep in a Holiday Inn last night.
EValP said:
:applause: :cheers:
What makes this any different from the dozens of films and television show that have depicted similar themes: The cliamate of intolerance for people of differing points of view that seem rife in the US right now. To depict something that could occur, that is unfriendly to the administration, is somehow regarded as unpatriotic.
Mark Twain seems to have nailed it when he said:
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Mars Attacks! is another movie depicting the death of the president. And Congress!
Who couldn't like that movie?
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Who couldn't like that movie?
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F18Guy said:
Sorry flyboy, it's Holiday Inn Express. Your brain capacity did not increase from your visit to that fine hotel. You may however, have contracted crabs. If you sit in a bath of warm water you can pick them out when they come up to breath.
rovercanus said:Sorry flyboy, it's Holiday Inn Express. Your brain capacity did not increase from your visit to that fine hotel. You may however, have contracted crabs. If you sit in a bath of warm water you can pick them out when they come up to breath.
LMAO!
I often wondered if that was popcorn on the ceiling or asbestos....:ack:
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Leslie said:
What difference does it make it he looks like the president or not? What difference does it make if it is the president or anyone else, it is depicting murder either way, that is my point.
Also, why that just because he is the president does it make it worse. I don't think that the president, especially this one, is any better than any other human being. It violence toward another human being.
And, its symbolism. Bush, as President is more then jsut a guy named George. He symbolizes our countries direction at this time.