Correct track rod and drag link torque values

[Bosbefok]

I'm getting conflicting torque values from rave for the track rod and drag link:

Page 06-15: Track rod and drag link 80 Nm (59 lbf.ft)

Page 60-31 point 6: Fit track rod and drag link nuts and
tighten to 80 Nm (59 lbf.ft).

Page 60-38 point 7: Fit track rod to steering knuckle and secure with
nut, tighten to 125 Nm (92 lbf.ft).

Do I go with the lower value, the higher value or the average of the 2

 

[K-rover]

I'm getting conflicting torque values from rave for the track rod and drag link:



Page 60-38 point 7: Fit track rod to steering knuckle and secure with
nut, tighten to 125 Nm (92 lbf.ft).

Do I go with the lower value, the higher value or the average of the 2

Im not sure where you are getting this. My Rave says:

5. Fit trackrod to steering knuckle and tighten nut
to 80 Nm (59 lbf.in).

 

[Bosbefok]

That is as it appears in my copy of rave:
Discovery Series II - Workshop Manual - 1999MY ON - 6th Edition - NAS.

 

[fishEH]

F'n tight has always worked for me.
You have nylocks or kastle nuts?

 

[Bosbefok]

Nylocks - they were f'n tight.

 

[fishEH]

Nylocks - they were f'n tight.

Well there ya go!

 

[p m]

I'm not sure I'd trust nylocks for TREs, especially since most of them are Grade 2. A castellated nut could be much more f'n tight (which is my personal reference as well).

 

[fishEH]

The last TRE I bought was greasble and came with a nylock. I wasn't too thrilled to see that but I guess its all the rage now.
Ive got four new TRE's arriving tomorrow so I guess I'll see what comes on those.

 

[Jake1996D1]

I prefer nylocs and with a little red loc-tite.. I hate how I can never get the castle nut to turn just a cunt hair more to fit the cotter pin. Then I always have to back off, to me that's not effin tight. I over tighten everything though.. Who cares what grade any of it is? If the nut pr the stud breaks your screwed.

 

[Bosbefok]

Most of the suspension nuts are nylock on my '03... that's the way it came.
I had to stand on my 26" breaker bar to crack the radius arm nuts loose, so there's no way they will undo themselves. One should replace nylocks after removing them, I think the distrust comes from reusing old nuts.

 

[listerdiesel]

Drag link to drop arm - 59lb ft
Track Rod to Steering Knuckle - 92 lb ft.

Taken off the Steering section of the Torque Wrench Settings Section in RAVE:

Peter

 

[listerdiesel]

There is a small benefit of nylocs in that they keep water out of the threads.

Peter

 

[jymmiejamz]

I'm not sure I'd trust nylocks for TREs, especially since most of them are Grade 2. A castellated nut could be much more f'n tight (which is my personal reference as well).

Land Rover uses nyloc on all steering and a lot of suspension nuts now.

 

[Bosbefok]

Drag link to drop arm - 59lb ft
Track Rod to Steering Knuckle - 92 lb ft.

Peter

I'm talking about the track rod to steering knuckle and the drag link to steering knuckle ends.

Check under the front suspension torque values, what does that give for the track rod and drag link?

 

[Bosbefok]

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B7MDCXVFrC26dVNVQlN1ODZlWE0

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B7MDCXVFrC26TU5DaXZEMnNkUm8

Oh bugger, I can't get an image posted....

 

[p m]

.

 

[cosmic88]

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B7MDCXVFrC26dVNVQlN1ODZlWE0

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B7MDCXVFrC26TU5DaXZEMnNkUm8

Oh bugger, I can't get an image posted....

Silly African...

 

[Bosbefok]

Silly African...

:smilelol: Yeah, as a programmer I know diddly squat about this interweb crap.

 

[listerdiesel]

Here you go:

Peter

 

[DiscoBlanco]

FWIW All the BMW's I have owned have always had nylon nuts or metal locking nuts. I prefer the metal ones myself but they seem to be out of style...

Nylon nuts are good... They have never backed out on me... Ever. They can be a bitch to get off if the end of the bolt has any kind of rust or grime on it. Heat usually works when you an melt all the nylon away.