Custom Headliner material

Lucas

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I need to replace my headliner, again. My first try at it wasn't so great. Looked good for a year but I didn't use enough adhesive and it drooped again. So since I'm going to try again, and I think I can get it right this time, I'm looking for something different. I've "googled" just about every word possible looking for headliner material in leopard print. I know, sounds pimpin' but why not. Anyway, does anyone have a source for foam backed leopard print material in 60" width?
 

jacg123

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Try putting in fabric stores/shops in Miami florida. There are a bunch of shops down there that do import/export and they might be able to help you the only other place iis the garment distric in New York... I'll check some of my sources and see what I can find, it won't be until next week until I know anything...
 
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MadMax

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I have always thought about using 1000 denier nylon, like real backpacks are made of. You can find websites for companies that sell every material that all your quality outdoor clothing and equipment is made of. My college roommates and I used to make all sorts of our own camping equipment.

I work on the other side of the railroad tracks and rely on a lot of the shops around the area for things like this. I got the headliner on my old disco redone for $75, from the cars I saw inside their shop (hispanic lowriders) they would have known where to get leopard. Don't know if there are any hispanic neighborhoods around your neck of the woods but thats were you might look.
 

Buddy

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If you're looking at Leopard print why does it matter if it's foam back originality is out the window anyway. I was in a friends Toyota the other day and they have a plain heavy material on the headliner without foam backing. If you got a heavy fabric you could just contact cement it onto the headliner backing I never really understood the purpose of the foam backing plus with heavy fabric/canvas it would be easier to clean the mud off.

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This is what you need.
http://thethemeroom.com/faux_fur_fabric.htm
 
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MadMax

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ditto on ditching the foam backing, today i had to convince my son it probably wasn't a good idea to stab the roof of the truck with the stick he had brought a long for the day

if i was going to do something like nylon i would use some 3M sprayable adhesive
 

jacg123

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My 2003 DII headliner is coming loose where there should be sunroofs is there any way of stoping that??

As for fabrics did you try canvas material in your search?? You can find manafactures that will make suxtome fabrics for you that would propably run you around the same price especially since you are needing such a large width... There is a company out of california that does this and they are really cheap on price on on quality. I'll get you the name and # tomorrow....
 

Rovernaut

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jacg123 said:
My 2003 DII headliner is coming loose where there should be sunroofs is there any way of stopping that??
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You could try sticking 'Pins' ( don't know what you guys call them in the US, the kind you use in pinning sewing together0 in to hold it to the backing. At least it will stop the weight of trhe unstuck lining contiuing to pull the other off. Temp fix
 

Lucas

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Buddy said:
If you're looking at Leopard print why does it matter if it's foam back originality is out the window anyway. I was in a friends Toyota the other day and they have a plain heavy material on the headliner without foam backing. If you got a heavy fabric you could just contact cement it onto the headliner backing I never really understood the purpose of the foam backing plus with heavy fabric/canvas it would be easier to clean the mud off.

Edit:
This is what you need.
http://thethemeroom.com/faux_fur_fabric.htm


I thought about that. Hate the foam, but can you glue fabric to the headliner without the glue bleeding through?
 

Lucas

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I have found some companies that sell leopard print material in 60" widths. If there is a way to attach to headliner without foam and without the glue bleeding through or making the fabric rough then I'll do it. Does anyone know?
 

Buddy

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the glue bleeding through depends on the material a light material like stock headliners will bleed through without the foam backing. But if you get something heavy like faux fur, faux other stuff or canvas you can apply contact cement or spay on 3M glue without bleeding through. Best thing to try is go to a local fabric store like Jo-Ann stores and buy some sample stuff and try bonding it to card board and see how it looks. If you don't like it. Then stick with the foam backed stuff.

I have not done it myself (yet) I have the fabric and the glue I just have not found the time since it's lower on my list of things to fix in the Disco. But I have heard people have had good results.
 

Lucas

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Buddy said:
the glue bleeding through depends on the material a light material like stock headliners will bleed through without the foam backing. But if you get something heavy like faux fur, faux other stuff or canvas you can apply contact cement or spay on 3M glue without bleeding through. Best thing to try is go to a local fabric store like Jo-Ann stores and buy some sample stuff and try bonding it to card board and see how it looks. If you don't like it. Then stick with the foam backed stuff.

I have not done it myself (yet) I have the fabric and the glue I just have not found the time since it's lower on my list of things to fix in the Disco. But I have heard people have had good results.


Sounds like good advice. Cheaper to test some samples than ruin a whole headliner. :banghead:
There are a few fabric stores around here, I'll get some small pieces and try it out. I've got a couple cans of 3M spray adhesive and cardboard. Forget the number but it's for high temp applications like headliners and vinyl tops. Weekend project, I'll post my results.
 

tikicar

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Use 3Ms General trim adheasive. You can get it at most good auto parts stores or your local auto paint store that is a 3M dealer. Use only the general trim adheasive, not other types that 3M sells. This has an adjustable spray nozzel that sprays it in a very airated pattern so you shouldn't get puddles of glue which leads to saturation. . You probably should have two cans for a headliner of this size. Now to do it right make sure you take a stiff brush and remove all the old foam and glue that you have a smooth surface. Even more important if you are not using foam backed material. Spray the headliner and let it almost dry (the headliner board can soak up some glue, this is why you do it twice to give it a base coat so it won't fall in a year) Then spray it again and lightly spray the material. Make sure you keep some distance on the material and move quickly to prevent heavy glue saturation. Make sure the glue is tacky and not wet when you apply the cloth. (if it is wet you will get saturation) It is best to lay the fabric over the headliner. Then fold it back in half. Install one half at a time (meaning glue also) This way you are not trying to do it all in one shot. I have done hundreds of headliners. You should get at least 10+ years out of it. Scott
 

Lucas

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tikicar said:
Use 3Ms General trim adheasive. You can get it at most good auto parts stores or your local auto paint store that is a 3M dealer. Use only the general trim adheasive, not other types that 3M sells. This has an adjustable spray nozzel that sprays it in a very airated pattern so you shouldn't get puddles of glue which leads to saturation. . You probably should have two cans for a headliner of this size. Now to do it right make sure you take a stiff brush and remove all the old foam and glue that you have a smooth surface. Even more important if you are not using foam backed material. Spray the headliner and let it almost dry (the headliner board can soak up some glue, this is why you do it twice to give it a base coat so it won't fall in a year) Then spray it again and lightly spray the material. Make sure you keep some distance on the material and move quickly to prevent heavy glue saturation. Make sure the glue is tacky and not wet when you apply the cloth. (if it is wet you will get saturation) It is best to lay the fabric over the headliner. Then fold it back in half. Install one half at a time (meaning glue also) This way you are not trying to do it all in one shot. I have done hundreds of headliners. You should get at least 10+ years out of it. Scott

Thanks Scott. I didn't use enough glue last time. Sprayed it too light. Good advice on spraying the liner first and letting it almost dry, makes sense. Will follow your directions when I try it again.
 
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morgan71

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I didnt have very good luck with the 3m poducts. Look into goodyear pliobond. You can find it at aircraft spruce and specialty or wicks aircraft supply. It will bond anything to anything!
 

Buddy

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Ok so after being bored today I have some more information on this and some things to look out for.

Good news
If the material has a mesh backing to it the glue will not bleed through and it will look as intended.

Things to watch out for.
Make sure the fabric has enough stretch to it for the deep parts of the Disco headliner.

The material that I used although it looks good was not stretchy enough for the headliner then on top of that I ended up getting it crooked and accidentally cut to much on one side. So it turned out like crap still better then the saggy mess I had before but I'll probably end up redoing it again next winter.

Oh yeah and you'll need something over 60" wide or it won't fit I've not found headliner material over 60" yet so I'll have to figure something out for next time.
 
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