D1 Tires

NOLADisco1

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Working on 99 D1 SD project. Going w TF heavy duty lift, safari guard front bumper etc. this will not be my daily driver.... with that in mind,
I welcome tire suggestions. Here is my list so far in no particular order
-Toyo m/t
-techno explorer m/t
- super swamper IROK or TSL(can’t remember which one is made in the right size)
- nitto trail grappler

thanks!
 

Jimmy

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Interesting list. What do you plan to do with it? What kind of terrain do you want to conquer with it?

What is the right size?
 

SCSL

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This is a list of wholly unrelated tires. Like Jimmy said, it’s highly dependent on what you’re trying to solve for. Toyo M/Ts and Interco TSLs are both great tires but they’re not in the same universe, ie: highly dependent on what you’re doing with the truck. Ditto for the Nitto’s you mentioned. Any question that involves a radial vs bias-ply tire suggests (and please don’t take offense to this) that you don’t have much experience in this area. Which is ok! So give us more information regarding what you’ll be doing with the truck so I can give you a more accurate recommendation. Doing so will save you money and frustration.
 
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NOLADisco1

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I don’t know shit about tires in the grand scheme of things, but the difference in the tire list is somewhat intentional. My real
Question is given that I’m not as concerned about onroad performance, noise level, life expectancy, etc, which way should I go.

I will use the truck for trail riding in western North Carolina. Would like to be able to do some double track, trails, etc.We do a ton of dual sport/adventure riding up there where we will ride of forest service gravel roads for some time and then get on smaller double track, old logging roads etc. some stream/river crossings. Would like to use to bring kids/wives along those trips some.

I plan on trailering the truck to North Carolina and to other areas to wheel. I live in New Orleans which is obviously a concrete jungle but I’m not going to be driving this thing around town but just for fun. I’ll probably get into some mud when riding around here.
I’m not worried about needing to go 70 on the interstate for 300miles.

As for size, I think 265/75r16. I want to be able to have proper articulation but want the widest possible while still be able to stuff it up in the wheel well.
Thanks for the feedback.
 

mgreenspan

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If I didn’t care about looks I’d get extended wheel arches(the better looking ones like the fiberglass kind) and put larger than 265/75s. The more expensive tires in larger sizes will benefit from being trailered.
 

Jimmy

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A radial mud terrain would suit you just fine. Tons of them in LT265/75R16 to choose from. I'm partial to BFGs (and some hate them) and the Toyo MT was a close second.
 

ERover82

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Wrangler Duratrac is a hybrid between MT and AT that sounds like it would fit your intended uses. It's also available in the D1 tire size sweet spot, 235/85R16. For off-road traction and dexterity, I'd take a tall narrow tire any day. Only in sand or bottomless mud would I prefer a slightly wider ratio tire.
 

SCSL

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Based on your elaboration, among the tires you listed I would go with the TSLs. Why? Because you're going to trailer the truck, not drive around town, get into some mud, and you live in a warm climate. They're going to clean out better in mud than the other options you listed, and they'll conform better on rocky trails. They are among the most common tire you'll see on dedicated trail rigs for a reason - they work. Second pick would be the Toyo M/Ts, which would be my first pick if you were going to be doing any on-road driving beyond just around the block. I've never owned these but wheeled extensively with friends who do and they have performed flawlessly in my observation over many years - Been around for awhile and still among the best radial M/Ts out there. I've had good luck with Nitto tires generally, but never wheeled the Trail Grapplers so can't comment. Don't see them too much on the trails in the SE, but the general pattern is pretty common so probably not significantly different than most MTs. Zero info on the techno explorers. Regarding the DuraTracs mentioned above- they are probably the best AT tire out there IMO, leaning towards an MT. Also a good winter weather choice. But they are not in the same league as the other tires mentioned off road other than maybe on slickrock.
 
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Gordo

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I’ll second TSL for the trail if they make a size that fits. I had the 34 x10.50 LTB (a TSL basically) and they were great in the mud and trails down in FL. I actually like them more than the Boggers I run now which really dig in sand but excel in mud. Neither are good on pavement though. I’ve also ran the new coopers in 235/85 on our D1 and I like them too. Not too loud and have been pretty tough offroad
 

SCSL

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Yeah I think it's the LTB that sizes up best for the D1. That's a hell of a good tire - I like it even better than the TSL. And yeah, a bitch on pavement.
 
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Flyfish

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How bad on pavement? Loud/rough/no tread life?

I will probably be 90% off-road 10% onroad
I know it wasn’t one of the choices but Ive used BFG AT’s & MT’s on all of my trucks for over a decade. Great off-road and on. Great wear and never noisy. I’ve gotten over 40k miles with the MT’s on my wheeling truck and almost 50k miles with the AT’s on my Tundra. I won’t run anything else.
 
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Swedjen2

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Cooper SST Pro's 235/85-16's on 6.5 x 16 Wolfs. A bit noisy. but tolerable for freeways and around town. New 32 dia/old 29 dia = 1.103 x 3.54 stock diff ratio = 3.90. That should be your new differential gearing ratio. Great Basin Rovers had that hardware as well as 4.10. 4.11. etc.
OME hardware will last longer than TF. OME is just better. Not cheaper, better.
JMO.
 
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Knightspirit

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I know it wasn’t one of the choices but Ive used BFG AT’s & MT’s on all of my trucks for over a decade. Great off-road and on. Great wear and never noisy. I’ve gotten over 40k miles with the MT’s on my wheeling truck and almost 50k miles with the AT’s on my Tundra. I won’t run anything else.
I concur with Flyfish - I have used BFG AT's and MT's for years on a variety of vehicles and they are great. I just lifted my D1 2", did the camel cut and installed 235/85/16 BFG AT's and I love them...
 
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Flyfish

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I concur with Flyfish - I have used BFG AT's and MT's for years on a variety of vehicles and they are great. I just lifted my D1 2", did the camel cut and installed 235/85/16 BFG AT's and I love them...
Not sure how much lift you’ll have but I’ve always run the 255/85 and they clear and tuck perfectly.. But not much room to spare!

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Howski

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I’d steer away from TSL’s even though you’ll be trailering to NC. Frankly there really aren’t any of difficult trails in WNC that would require a tire that aggressive unless you plan on going to dedicated private off road parks or Uwharrie. A Duratrac type tread pattern would suit you well. You will be riding a lot of curvy mountain roads to get to the trails so don’t discount on road performance as much as you are.
 
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SCSL

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How bad on pavement? Loud/rough/no tread life?

I will probably be 90% off-road 10% onroad
Bad. Yes, yes and yes. As a bias ply tire, it'll flat-spot on cool mornings and/or if it's been sitting awhile & take awhile to round out. Tread will wear very quickly on pavement. And no siping means slippy on slick roads. But on muddy southeastern trails, they're tough to beat. It's definitely not an all-purpose tire. My recommendation is solely based on your list and your stated use case (trailered trail rig, etc).
 

idkmybffjjill

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Figured i'd add my 2 cents. I run 35x12.5R15 BFG KM2 mud terrains on my D1. Not sure what type of terrain you are gonna deal with mostly but here in Washington state i get a little bit of everything. In the mud these tires are unstoppable, only time i've had issues was in deep mud/water that was above my axles. It was more silt than mud, but a heavy right foot got me out. They do pretty good in the deep snow as well but in snow it's hard to beat IROK's or Pit bull rockers but i've had no issues going through snow that was up to the top of my tires. I also make a yearly trip to some San dunes that are 400 miles away from me and i drive my D1 there and back. They aren't too loud on the highway, definitely quieter than trucks i've been in with Toyo MT's. I've also had a set of General grabber X3's on my old Ford f150, they were a 33x10.5 and i loved them as well. But i think my KM2's are better in the sand then the X's would be just based off tread block design. If you dealing with mostly just rocky and gravelly roads i would consider the General Grabber X3 and the KM2 or new KM3. The cooper Discoverer STT is also a great tire for rocky/gravel roads. The last shop i worked at we serviced the vehicles of windmill technicians who drive 90% of the time on gravel/rocky roads and they kept getting punctures from rocks even on A/T tires. The two tires we never had issues with were Grabber X3's and Cooper discoverer STT. Was pretty funny seeing Chevy 1500 vans with mud terrain tires on them but they worked great and lasted a long time.