D2 ETC + True Trac = Good enough?

[rmuller]

Gem-- There is no debate that ARB is superior to dual TTs.. TT's are limited slip differentials, they are NOT lockers. TTs are superior to stock though, and for a lot of people on this board, they are a major improvement.

I know you, I know your truck, I know your experience.. Just because you can spend a lot of money in a fast amount of time doesn't mean everyone else can. Leave it at that.

 

[Ataraxia]

The ETC will only disengage if you shut the truck off and restart with the CDL engaged. You can go into the slabs unit and snip one wire to stop this from happening. Some people like the option to shut off the ABS/ETC. I like the ability to shut down the truck without messing with the CDL so I snipped it.

Can someone clarify this for me? So if I leave my CDL engauged when I turn the engine off, I should see the "3 amigos" or some warning on startup? Cause my ETC works perfectly after starting up with CDL engauged (I get no warning lights, or 3 amigos). No wires were snipped on my slabs ecu, she was a pavement queen before I bought it.

Just wondering, thanks.

Oh, BTW. Second cheapest option to the "ghetto CDL handle" (to me) is this. Works great for me (even though it is two micro-buttons on my dash )

 

[JSQ]

LOL.

 

[MUSKYMAN]

Gem, you've been driving off-road how long? Had your truck how long? Had the mod's for how long? and now your a fucking expert, one trip to the rally and 5 trails doesn't make you informed on aything other than following a fucking trail guide. I hate the guy's that drop huge cash on the latest greatest shit on thier rigs and become experts. I ran a dual TT set-up thru all the shit you ran at the rally and didn't have a problem.

For a DD/weekend warrior, the dual TT set-up, with CDL, add the ETC and you have a truck will do what every other truck with ARB's or Detriots can do. 99% is driver skill and knowedge, which you learn and earn, NOT BUY

:applause: couldent have said it better myself

 

[4Runner]

I have a 96 D1 and I'm ready to buy two TT's or a TT & DL. I have a TT in my 4Runner and it works great in the snow. I had a electro-locker in my Taco and found it a PITA to turn it on and off and on and off. Having to stop foward motion to engage it. I also like the fact that a TT is sending power to both wheels, even when turning, perhaps keeping me from getting stuck. I think I am more concerned with performance in the snow. Any input would be great. Thanks.

 

[gmookher]

:applause: couldent have said it better myself

good, now you mongo and steve can go jerk yourselves off

feel better?
your Trutracs rock
your drivings skills rock?

okay?
now go fucking drive your trutracs and like it
i'm not in the mood for your self pompous ego stroking shit right now

next time, try your build with real lockers. even rubicons come from factory with real lockers, but youre right, LSDs are all one needs

fucking idiots, go pull the lockers out of a rubicon and even the HD locker that comes on a LR3 and run your damn trutracs, and call it an upgrade

theres no need to put aguy down casue he afforded a build he likes, and if you really think your rigs is climbing the wall on thehard side, not the pussy side with TTs, you can see my video and hear the racheting

but youre right, wtf do i know...
hell go do the 4 and 4+ trails at moab with your TTs, and like it okay? just dont copy my build, dont be stupid like ME

grow the fuck up

 

[barshnik]

good, now you mongo and steve can go jerk yourselves off

feel better?
your Trutracs rock
your drivings skills rock?

okay?
now go fucking drive your trutracs and like it
i'm not in the mood for your self pompous ego stroking shit right now

next time, try your build with real lockers. even rubicons come from factory with real lockers, but youre right, LSDs are all one needs

fucking idiots, go pull the lockers out of a rubicon and even the HD locker that comes on a LR3 and run your damn trutracs, and call it an upgrade

theres no need to put aguy down casue he afforded a build he likes, and if you really think your rigs is climbing the wall on thehard side, not the pussy side with TTs, you can see my video and hear the racheting

but youre right, wtf do i know...
hell go do the 4 and 4+ trails at moab with your TTs, and like it okay? just dont copy my build, dont be stupid like ME

grow the fuck up

Ouch. Hope you feel better now. You are a whole bunch smarter and better looking than anyone else because you've got lockers, OK? Re-read the thread title. Best - no. Good enough - yes. I'd rather haul wine, cheese, crackers, and smoked oysters than welding equipment and spare axles. And, I'll take the 'pussy' way up most any time possible. See you at the top.

John F
LV, NV

 

[gmookher]

And, I'll take the 'pussy' way up most any time possible. See you at the top.

right, thats what off roading is about , taking the path of least resistance

right?

good for you

what more can i say?

mankind has more men who prefer the challenge or we'd still be pushing square wagon wheels with mules

why not just ride a jackass?why even use motorized transport, you can get to the top that way and dont even have to pick up the shit or put gas in it

don't mock me for being into making my rigg capable, reliable or more fun than stock

some genius said in a post "the factory diffs are plenty strong"

good, replace yours with a factory one when it breaks
no sense buying ARB, only an idiot like me would do that...

 

[Mongo]

Gem, fuck off. I will out drive you any day of the week. Just beacuse you locked up your truck doesn't mean shit. Your just another arrogant asshole who dropped a shitload of cash and now thinks he's a fucking expert off-road driver...Like I said fuck tard, I did all the same trails you did at the rally with my D2 with CDL/TT's, no abs or tc or anything else, what does that say,


do you get it yet...




do I need to say it out loud...




It comes down to driver skill and experience, which it seems you think you have a lot of, and apparently very little...please, just answer the questions I asked before...How long have you had the mod's? driving offroad? scared little boy to admit that it's only a couple of trips...


Please, shut the fuck up

 

[gmookher]

I did all the same trails you did at the rally with my D2 with CDL/TT's, no abs or tc or anything else, what does that say,

maybe you should spend less time trying to insult me and make your ABS/TC work, or figure out what the problesm are surrounding same like I did..

yes, I get the 3 amigos too, but I know how and why. You need to try harder to fix those since TTs are in FACT less capable than ARBS...

LOL, mongo you been here long enough, havent you?:smilelol:


ooooooooooooooooooh "you'll out drive me"

I'm shakin....

tard, You have more skill perhaps, but yeah, my trucks more capable than an identically set up D2 with TT

PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN PAL, these are facts DEAL WITH THEM
I got lots of other crap to deal with than your dumass delusions of grandeur

 

[Mongo]

You really are a moron... I disabled the ABS because of a blown slabs ecu, when I replaced it, I found I liked not have ABS, and didn't need TC...whatever.

You really don't get it, how a truck performs off road, or even on-road is 90% driver ability and 10% truck. You claim that your can go anywhere because of the ARB's, I'm merely trying to tell you that a truck with dual TT's can go anywhere you can go. Will you please get that thru your thick fucking skull...

 

[gmookher]

sorry bud, i disagree with you. Have seen plenty of TT rigs out done by ARB riggs, but YMMV

Like I say, do yourself and me a favor and bring your TT equipped rigg on, pick a trail with a 8plus rating on 1-10 or a 4 or better on 1-4 and I'll put money where my pie hole is

you think you cna do that?
pick a date time and place, lets get some video tape and post the falacies you pretend to profess...

you OBVIOUSLY have not seem my video from the rally...
you can get help for your delusional state of mind..

 

[Mongo]

Ok, come on down, I'll meet you in Florence and we'll do upper and lower woodpecker...it's a 3 plus (can't use ANY BYPASSES, no rock stacking...basically no pussyfooting around the hard stuff). No need to destroy your truck on anything harder that you'd need to be towed off anyways and I'll run my truck with a open front and a lunchbox locker in the rear.

What's really funny 'bout this is you think because you locked your truck that you can run a true 3+ trail...I think it's you who needs to lay off the crack pipe. It's just more proof that you really don't know shit...

 

[MUSKYMAN]

gmooker

My point was you are one of those moronic assholes that comes on the board asks stupid questions then reads a bunch and buys himself what he thinks makes him a expert, even when he stills knows almost nothing.

I had my first truck with dual ARB's 20 years ago. so your whole tirade about me was just bullshit:applause:

I drive 99% of the time offroad with both axles open even though I have ARB's at both ends. Why? because I can. I know how and when to transfer torque from one side to the other . I know where to place my tires to get clearence or gain traction. those are things that buying a locker wont get you and I will bet you dont have.

I have forgotten more about this shit then you will ever know.atriot:

See you cant go from zero to hero...it takes time on the trail and you my mixed up friend have very very little of it. so sell your truck and go on your way:flipoff3a:

 

[gmookher]

right, and casue I own arbs too, like you, I must be the dumass who rides around with them engaged all day

i dont use them till I am either stuck, or on 3 or less wheels

I really dont get why you and others need to be on a high horse and refuse to accept that someone with as few posts as me may know how to drive too

I must be a friggin novice...casue you know me, and you've wheeled with me...riiiight


mongo says I dont know shit, and so do you, but niether of you know who i am

 

[kennith]

There is no need to know who someone is sometimes.

It's like the hardcore guy who goes to the beach a lot. He has his chevy on 40s, lockers all around, even bead locks and 27.325 lights. There is a highlift, winch, 38 rod holders, 2 tents, a grill for 5 families, and self inflating beds.

100 yards down the beach is a 25 year old 2wd Datsun with bald tires, sagging springs, and a bamboo fishing rod wedged between the bumper and the tailgate.

Neither man is more happy than the other. Each has what he wants. There is no problem with either of them.

The issue arises when one or the other fails to understand that sometimes just enough is fine, when you have the experience to use it effectively. This is where you are GM.

Not everyone needs lockers, nice as they are. I'm headed for them myself, but I've run this particular vehicle for years without them. I really don't even need them, I WANT them. They make driving off pavement easier, but they don't make it possible.

There is a difference.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[Mongo]

Again, your just a arrogant asshole who dumped a shitload of cash into a truck and has magically gained knowledge and experience...

 

[gmookher]

and that bothers you?

 

[benlittle]

One might ask what kind of knowledge a yota like Gem has... THis is the best... No This... No this... Oh shit, one more... Ok, really last one.:rofl: Endless wheeling and tech knowledge.

All BS asside Gem, good luck with your personal shit... That's no fun.

 

[Mongo]

yeah, because your telling guys' that the only way to wheel or build thier is truck is "YOUR WAY"...that without dual locker's you can't do hard trails. So yeah, that's my problem...
I also had dual lockers in a truck 15 years ago, back when you didn't even know what wheeling was. So I get a little tired of fucks' like you who don't shit, but think becuase they drop a ton a of cash on something, that wisdom, experience and CREDIBILITY is magically gained...So please shut the fuck up...


Oh yeah, a little insight, all those mods you did will void the warranty in a heart beat. And it really doesn't increase the value of the rig to a insurance company. Plan on a little better than book value, by the way which is about 20k...