D2 lifts

[lowcountry]

I'm new to D2's. I just purchased a 2000 that's cherry and would like to put a 2" lift on it. Are there any specifics with the D2 that I should watch out for that are not present on a D1?

This will be very lightly wheeled.

 

[KyleT]

Rock sliders, winch bumper and winch. That will get you a lot further than a 2" lift.

 

[K-rover]

Rock sliders, winch bumper and winch. That will get you a lot further than a 2" lift.

I agree. I also recommend a good set of diff guards. Mine have saved my ass more times than I can remember.

 

[Gman]

I agree. I also recommend a good set of diff guards. Mine have saved my ass more times than I can remember.

I second the diff guards. That should be the first upgrade for any LR with solid axles IMO.

 

[Buddy]

I'm new to D2's. I just purchased a 2000 that's cherry and would like to put a 2" lift on it. Are there any specifics with the D2 that I should watch out for that are not present on a D1?

This will be very lightly wheeled.

For light wheeling, you can probably use a Terra Firma 2" lift. Lots of stuff about the D2 that is not present on the DI's. It might help if you are more specific about what area you're thinking about.

 

[Mongo]

5" Lucky8 springs, castor corrected radius arms, stock axles, 35's and a killer camo vinyl wrap…oops, sorry I thought this was a for sale thread…

do a search and you'll find volumes on setup's that work for your type of wheeling

 

[kennith]

C'mon, guys. Are we so used to this that we've forgotten all the poor trucks that were hobbled on the production line?

First modification on a 2000 DII: 2004 Center differential lock linkage. Period. End of story. I'm right.

Most of the transfer cases actually have the locker (some don't, but this is mainly contained in late 2002 and 2003 models), but they are not fitted with the linkage and lever to operate it from the cabin. It's like having heated seats, but a blanking plug where the button should be.

Buy the kit. They are available pretty much anywhere now.

Don't bother with armor or suspension until you get the damned vehicle working as intended, and using all it's parts. The car was delivered with a CDL. Don't fuck with anything else until your CDL is functional.

Only then; only when you've got that locker working, should you consider fucking with other things, and even then you should wait. These vehicles are very capable in stock form. Indeed, they are much more capable than even many enthusiasts believe.

Take it out with your bonus locker, stock, and have fun for a while. Learn to drive it in that condition. A DII responds very well to experience. You've got to grow a hell of a lot before you hit a performance wall.

This is my DII, fresh out of the showroom in 2001:

I took it easy on the break in miles, but not too long after that, the highways ended. She had a bit of fun in pretty much every condition you can find. That was a bone stock vehicle, and I just pointed it at the horizon.

Rocks, mud, snow, forests, and long desert roads. Note the distinct lack of winch.

Get that thing out without mods for a while. You'll be better able to choose efficient modifications afterword. I wouldn't touch the thing until you've got at least a hundred miles off-pavement. I gave mine well over a thousand.

People fuck up when they rush into modifications.

While DII suspension is simply a phone call, a few hundred dollars, and a bolt-on kit away, it's not time for you to do it just yet. Wait. Learn the vehicle, and have some fun. While you're at it, sort out any issues related to the previous owner not giving it what it needs.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[K-rover]

I agree and disagree with Kenniths response. The CDL is a very important piece of the puzzle, but learning how the D2 uses its traction control is just as important. Ive seen too many people over powering their TC or not giving it enough throttle to let it work. Once you can get the feel for how the TC works then you can add the CDL. The combination of the two is a damn good setup. I voted for diff guards since they will be first thing you hit if your not careful. Even on the easy trails.

Here is my truck last year sometime with the crappy Nitto tires CDL+TC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaQKLMLx-yI

 

[kennith]

I agree and disagree with Kenniths response. The CDL is a very important piece of the puzzle, but learning how the D2 uses its traction control is just as important. Ive seen too many people over powering their TC or not giving it enough throttle to let it work. Once you can get the feel for how the TC works then you can add the CDL. The combination of the two is a damn good setup. I voted for diff guards since they will be first thing you hit if your not careful. Even on the easy trails.

Here is my truck last year sometime with the crappy Nitto tires CDL+TC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaQKLMLx-yI

I agree with your point, but you've got to remember that he's bought a car, he has the idea of cash burning a hole in his pocket, and he wants to fuck with something.:rofl:

We've all been there. It happens to me every time I buy a car.

So long as he's going to spend money, he may as well spend it where it matters.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[Vic00Dis]

I am from Florida and am not sure what a ROCK is ! and my thinking is with Low Country. The CDL I activated by doing what ? Guessing shifting into Low.. but confused by reading if you had the Disco serviced The CDL could be locked in from the dealership.
I know the CDL shifter is supposed to be under the Center Console.. If I understand the CDl Locks the front and Rear .diffs together Correct ? I know it can't lock the left and right wheels for true 4x4 but the Hand book says it is Full time 4X4. If someone can splain this in 3 grade Grammer it would be nice. Thanks..Maybe I should have started a new post but this relates to me so well.

 

[ukoffroad]

For 2" lift really all that you HAVE to do is springs and shocks. The limiting factors at that point are the away bars, the lack of a cdl and the brake and abs lines. Several vendors have options, Atlantic British, RoversNorth and Lucky 8 all have them. Spacers are the cheapest way at about $100.

 

[kennith]

I am from Florida and am not sure what a ROCK is ! and my thinking is with Low Country. The CDL I activated by doing what ? Guessing shifting into Low.. but confused by reading if you had the Disco serviced The CDL could be locked in from the dealership.
I know the CDL shifter is supposed to be under the Center Console.. If I understand the CDl Locks the front and Rear .diffs together Correct ? I know it can't lock the left and right wheels for true 4x4 but the Hand book says it is Full time 4X4. If someone can splain this in 3 grade Grammer it would be nice. Thanks..Maybe I should have started a new post but this relates to me so well.

1: You have a transmission and a transfer case.

2: You have three differentials.

3: One differential is in the transfer case.

4: The transfer case is required in order to point a drive shaft at the front axle.

5: Vehicles with only a normal transmission can only point a drive shaft at the rear axle.

6: The differential in the transfer case connects the two drive shafts, allowing all wheel drive*.

7: This differential is normally unlocked.

8: A differential will not function properly on the road when it is locked.

9: That is why the differential is normally unlocked.

10: A properly functioning differential will allow the drive shafts to rotate at different speeds.

11: This causes wheels with low traction to spin helplessly.

12: Locking the differential prevents this.

13: This is because the drive shafts will not rotate at different speeds when locked together.

14: 1999-early 2002 Discovery II vehicles feature a differential that can be locked.

15: Land Rover installed the wrong lever in the cabin.

16: That lever only moves in a line in order to select high range or low range.

17: The right lever can be purchased and installed.

18: The right lever can move in the shape of the letter H.

19: This allows the functions: High Unlocked, High Locked, Low Unlocked, and Low Locked.

20: To install the right lever, one must remove the wrong lever and the bits that connect it to the transfer case, and install the right lever and new bits that connect it to the transfer case.

*Without a locking transfer case differential, a Land Rover is pretty much a giant Subaru with traction control instead of smart stuff in the middle.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[kennith]

For 2" lift really all that you HAVE to do is springs and shocks. The limiting factors at that point are the away bars, the lack of a cdl and the brake and abs lines. Several vendors have options, Atlantic British, RoversNorth and Lucky 8 all have them. Spacers are the cheapest way at about $100.

Spacers suck.

Suspension kits can also be purchased at Expedition Exchange. Lucky 8 and Expedition Exchange are good places to purchase kits, because they are enthusiastic vendors within the community.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[Tugela]

All this dicking around with a CDL could have been avoided altogether by making the smart move and just buying a Discovery 1 in the first place.






Or a RRC, which is so slick that it uses chemistry and thermodynamics to automatically lock the differential for you. Either of which I would take over a D2 any day of the week, but there are probably a grillion things about the D2 that Kennith can highlight to demonstrate it's superior functionality over the D1.

 

[Vic00Dis]

Kennith ! Thank you !! NOW it is clear as a bell.. will the d1 low high lock unlock fit the 2000 . I know mine is locked full time .. Gas mileage and the feel on wet pavement, so. the highway is eating up my tires. I guess for now I can pull the console and shift it into not Full time 4x4 .. that was what I could not believe. When the book says Full time 4x4. thanks some how I will fix this . until I can get the shifter...

Ok !! The Wife says no way do I get a LOCK Kit, $600. She said I can crawl thru the mud to shift it.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/CDLKD2

 

[mike97d1]

Spacers suck.

Suspension kits can also be purchased at Expedition Exchange. Lucky 8 and Expedition Exchange are good places to purchase kits, because they are enthusiastic vendors within the community.

Cheers,

Kennith

I rocked 2" spacers for a while before going to 3" springs. They were great for getting room to fit bigger tires. With no rear swaybar, and disconnects for the front bar and the CDL, it wheeled just fine. Handled just like factory on the street too.

All that said, I now have 3" springs, longer shocks, and needed to retain the springs as the flex was much more.

 

[csbd]

Two D1s, four D2s, two P38s, two RRCs and even a Freelander later, my repair and off road driving skills are increasing. (I'm also getting to know Marty well). With my last P38, I made the biggest strides in both repair and driving skills.

I like to keep everything stock, though I do rationalize adding the proper T-Case shift lever to a D2 qualifies as "stock".

Currently working with a 2000 D2 and I find there are obstacles I cannot attempt that were easy enough in a P38 with the air springs at off road height, the limiting factor being approach and departure angles.

The springs on my current D2 have clearly lost about an inch and I'm a little bit tempted to replace them with something longer than original. Probably not.

I don't plan on doing anything other than stock nor owning another P38 but, it seems a proper lift with larger tires would increase the capability of a D2 and at the same time decrease the opportunity for diff or sill damage.

-Brad

 

[riceybean]

Kennith ! Thank you !! NOW it is clear as a bell.. will the d1 low high lock unlock fit the 2000 . I know mine is locked full time .. Gas mileage and the feel on wet pavement, so. the highway is eating up my tires. I guess for now I can pull the console and shift it into not Full time 4x4 .. that was what I could not believe. When the book says Full time 4x4. thanks some how I will fix this . until I can get the shifter...

Ok !! The Wife says no way do I get a LOCK Kit, $600. She said I can crawl thru the mud to shift it.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/CDLKD2

Get a D1 lever, its a fairly easy install.

Here are a few write ups.

http://www.discovery2.co.uk/diff_lock.html

http://landroverforums.com/forum/modifications-33/cdl-lever-install-2000-discovery-2-a-58029/

http://www.discovery2.co.uk/D1_to_D2_cdl.html

 

[yoface13]

1 - 20 should be the first thing that ever comes up for a d2 owner when first reading up on the cdl issue. Period. Followed by how to/where to feel if your truck is in the suspect manufacturing dates.

 

[lowcountry]

Well, I don't necessarily agree with Kennith about me just "wanting to fuck with something".

The reason I ask about the lift is because the springs are shot and I have to replace them. So, why not go ahead and lift it now? I do not plan to do any major off-roading. I would like a little more ground clearance and will be putting BFG A/T's on it. I will be romping around on a farm, the woods, and driving around town. The only real load it will have in the back is shotguns, coolers, kids, etc. No compressors or toolboxes.

With that said, I plan to put a 2" coil and replace the shocks. Any suggestions on the best coils and shocks for my application appreciated.

Also, what would be the recommended tire size for a D2 with a 2"?