D5 HSE Td6 first impressions.

msggunny

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We pulled the trigger on a 17 D5 HSE Td5 for a relatively good deal. We had been kicking tires on LR4's for a while now but after our last experience with the 11 LR4 we had for 15min, we decided to stop f'ing around and get a D5. Finding one we wanted with the mileage we wanted was not easy, however we found one and purchased it this week.

We had both driven a gas and diesel D5 a few months ago and preferred the diesel over the gas, which is the reason we purchased a diesel. And because its a diesel.

The truck is great, drives very nicely, and is huge inside. The interior is way better than the LR3 or even the LR4 we had, and finally has some really nice technology in it. The diesel gives it lots of off the line quickness and is faster than you expect, that and the engine is almost dead quiet. Everything is motorized almost, even the 3rd row seats. This scares me a bit, but hopefully there wont be any issues. I didn't have any with my LR3 in regards to the seats and motors.

My only complaint is the outside of the truck. It is sorely lacking the boxy, manly, look of the older models. I worry that these vehicles will be see little off-roading due to their front end and its apparent lack of a robust bumper.

I think this one will only see family hauling, light camping, fire trails, boat pulling, and long distance trips. That's ok, i still have my D2.


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Minus their historical emotional, aesthetic, and recreational off-road appeal, is there any competitive advantage left? Do these really make sense as daily drivers and "hauling, light camping, fire trails, boat pulling, and long distance trips " for the masses? The market for mid-size SUV/large crossovers is full of competitors. If I didn't need a pickup bed I'd have skipped the F150 and got a Sequoia. Either way I'd sleep peacefully.
 

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Minus their historical emotional, aesthetic, and recreational off-road appeal, is there any competitive advantage left? Do these really make sense as daily drivers and "hauling, light camping, fire trails, boat pulling, and long distance trips " for the masses? The market for mid-size SUV/large crossovers is full of competitors. If I didn't need a pickup bed I'd have skipped the F150 and got a Sequoia. Either way I'd sleep peacefully.
The old reviews for D2s always seemed to put them last as daily drivers against their competitors. I still prefer the way a 2004 D2 drives over a 2004 Pathfinder. As for the D5, there's not a lot of diesel competitors, the D5 is quite roomy, and it its more useful than any crossover. In any one category it probably looses out to competitors in its price range. For example, a loaded Yukon is probably better at towing or hauling things. The D5 does however seem to be a good all-rounder. Too bad it is one of the most hideous cars LR has ever made. I always thought LR3s and, to a lesser extent, LR4s looked like dull cars based on refrigerators. I've warmed to them after seeing the D5.
 
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Minus their historical emotional, aesthetic, and recreational off-road appeal, is there any competitive advantage left? Do these really make sense as daily drivers and "hauling, light camping, fire trails, boat pulling, and long distance trips " for the masses? The market for mid-size SUV/large crossovers is full of competitors. If I didn't need a pickup bed I'd have skipped the F150 and got a Sequoia. Either way I'd sleep peacefully.
We looked around but only the D5 met our requirements for the most part. 7 seat, 4x4, fuel economy (diesel), towing at least 7700lbs (Sequoia only pulls 7000 in 4x4). And GMC/Chevy is garbage. Im not brand specific, but every GMC/Chevy i have driven feels cheap and has as many, if not more, issues than LR's.

We looked at the Land Cruisers too, but they hold their value too well to be competitive for us. Wouldn't mind having a 200 series LC, although it wouldn't meet our fuel economy requirement since they don't bring their diesels over here for some stupid reason.

I sleep very peacefully with the D5, but it aint the purdyest. Of course I thought the LR3 looked like shit until I bought one.
 

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Minus their historical emotional, aesthetic, and recreational off-road appeal, is there any competitive advantage left? Do these really make sense as daily drivers and "hauling, light camping, fire trails, boat pulling, and long distance trips " for the masses? The market for mid-size SUV/large crossovers is full of competitors. If I didn't need a pickup bed I'd have skipped the F150 and got a Sequoia. Either way I'd sleep peacefully.
I like the diesel more than the petrol V6 because it is way quieter. Petrol direct injection is so loud, and diesels have gotten so quiet, I like the diesel. It is also nice that they get much better fuel economy.
 
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We looked around but only the D5 met our requirements for the most part. 7 seat, 4x4, fuel economy (diesel), towing at least 7700lbs (Sequoia only pulls 7000 in 4x4). And GMC/Chevy is garbage. Im not brand specific, but every GMC/Chevy i have driven feels cheap and has as many, if not more, issues than LR's.

We looked at the Land Cruisers too, but they hold their value too well to be competitive for us. Wouldn't mind having a 200 series LC, although it wouldn't meet our fuel economy requirement since they don't bring their diesels over here for some stupid reason.

I sleep very peacefully with the D5, but it aint the purdyest. Of course I thought the LR3 looked like shit until I bought one.
Have you towed with it yet? 7700 seems like s shit ton.
 

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Have you towed with it yet? 7700 seems like s shit ton.
I did, I have a 23ft world cat that weighs about 6800 with gas and gear. Tows great, however you can tell that it doesn’t have a separate frame to help insulate against the noise....
 

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And so the love-hate relationship with Land Rover D5 begins...

My wife was driving the truck the other day and suddenly the TPMS system stopped working, gave her a "TPMS System Fault" on the information screen.

Then we noticed dark black oil patches on the garage floor where she parks the D5, I thought it was from when I parked my D2 there however when i got under the truck there was noticeable oil drips forming on the differential and there was a streak from where the oil was being blown back by the wind while driving.

This led me to want to check the oil level. We had only had the vehicle for 9 days, when we were looking at the vehicle i attempted to check the oil via the instructions in the manual. I got "not ready" on the information screen and chalked it up to it not sitting long enough to register as there is a 10 min waiting period for the sensor to work. I attempted to check the oil level again, per the manual exactly. I still got the "not ready" on the screen. I tried this about 10 times, sometimes varying the length of time from 10 to 15 to 20 min after the engine was at operating temp and shut down. Still nothing. So i called my local dealer and explained it to them. They said since there was no way to check the oil level to have it towed in. Which we did. It has been there since Tuesday and they haven't even looked at the vehicle yet. Thankfully we did get a loner from them.

They are going to look at the TPMS issue, oil leak, why the rear seat entertainment wont register a source, and why the opening for the CD player (which is the climate control panel) doesn't open the way it is supposed to.

Thankfully it is still under warranty.....

Does anyone know if you can buy an actual dipstick for the 3.0 Tdi? IMG_5766.JPGIMG_5765.JPG
 

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Those tend to leak oil through the oil level sensor connector on the passenger side of the engine (not your leak). The oil pushes the connector loose and will prevent you from checking the level. Just FYI, if you open the hood, go into the oil level check screen, then hit the cancel button for the cruise control twice, the oil level will display immediately.

I bet they pinched the oil filter o-ring.
 
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So the service department got back to me on the issues.

Oil level sensor was bad.
Oil leak is from the cam covers
TPMS and entertainment issue was resolved with a software update and they had a fix for the climate control door.
 

msggunny

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Those tend to leak oil through the oil level sensor connector on the passenger side of the engine (not your leak). The oil pushes the connector loose and will prevent you from checking the level. Just FYI, if you open the hood, go into the oil level check screen, then hit the cancel button for the cruise control twice, the oil level will display immediately.

I bet they pinched the oil filter o-ring.
So the hood has to be open to do this, correct?

Thanks!
 

jymmiejamz

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So the service department got back to me on the issues.

Oil level sensor was bad.
Oil leak is from the cam covers
TPMS and entertainment issue was resolved with a software update and they had a fix for the climate control door.
I'm guessing they mean the cam seals and not the cam cover.

The infotainment system is never really going to be fixed. It is a really badly designed system. At least now you will be able to do software over the air updates going forward.

So the hood has to be open to do this, correct?
Yes, that allows you to bypass the 10 minute waiting period.
 
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msggunny

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I'm guessing they mean the cam seals and not the cam cover.

The infotainment system is never really going to be fixed. It is a really badly designed system. At least now you will be able to do software over the air updates going forward.
Yeah, cam seals not covers.

The infotainment system is the same they are running on all the newer model vehicles? As long as the Apple car play doesn’t shit the bed I am ok. My kids can just watch their iPads, which is what they will most likely do anyways as we don’t have a lot of CD’s any more.

thanks again for the info!
 

jymmiejamz

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The infotainment system is the same they are running on all the newer model vehicles? As long as the Apple car play doesn’t shit the bed I am ok. My kids can just watch their iPads, which is what they will most likely do anyways as we don’t have a lot of CD’s any more.
Yeah, its the same system even in a 2020 Range Rover. The only real difference is that you only have one screen. My advice to you is to view any glitches with the system the same way you do with your phone. With phone connectivity issues just plan on unpairing your phone and deleting the car from the phone/deleting the phone from the car. That will fix a lot of issues.