Deciding DRIVE Shafts?

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ek5usmc

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What are you guys running out there? Just about to put my 3'' lift on and cant make up my mind. For the REAR, Tom woods is cheaper, but I have heard great things about Great Basin Rovers. GBR are pre made and get here quicker and come with output flange for the 3''. TW takes a little longer for your measurements but runs around $100 cheaper.

Now for the FRONT, I was thinking order some greasable ujoints and have my drive shaft guy rebuild it. ujoints are $120 + around $100 to rebuild it. Or should I invest that money into a new drive shaft for the front.

Both axles are stock-factory, for now and probably for a couple months or more. Thanks for any advice!:ack:
 

pnorvell

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I went with GBR too and love it. Customer service is great and i only ended up paying about 375 for the front. Of course im running a 2" though so it might be more expensive for you. real easy to do yourself too
 

jymmiejamz

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I've got to be honest, I don't think GBR has the best reputation here. I haven't dealt with them, but if you do a search you will see what I mean.
 
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ek5usmc

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Where do you buy these ujoints from? Are they standard or a special order? Thanks
 

roverover

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Look around and get Spicer 5x-4s and rebuild your front and if your rear has 2 ujoints rebuild it too.

If you need to buy shafts call Justin at Lucky 8 he has some new ones out that are barkin' and reasonable Heres a link http://www.lucky8llc.com/

As far as rebuilding yours my D1 with 3" Springs and 35's had a rebuilt D2 shaft on the front for a long time without any issues My D2 has 2" lift with stock front and RR rear rebuilt with 5x4s and that was a long time ago
 

LRTiger

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I replaced my OEM front driveshaft with a GBR and LOVE it. No problems and feels better - not to mention I feel safe from the u-joints seizing and having a field day with the undercarriage.

I've put about 10k on the GBR and have had ZERO problems.
 

skippy3k

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I've dealt with GBR before. I might even be labeled one of those pain in ass customers who kept returning driveshafts because they kept increasing my vibrations. But Bill was very good about the whole process. I ended up not going with GBR, but as for customer service, I couldn't have been happier.
 

MUSKYMAN

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I am running the new TW adapterless shafts front and rear and they are by far the best out there you will find.

no adapter to mate to the TC
forged components
lifetime warantee on the u-joints and if you do have a failure to the u-joint the shaft will be replaced or rebuilt free as well if it is damaged during the u-joint failure.

in a nut shell there is no reason to consider anyone else

4xshaft.com
 

Tempest

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skippy3k said:
I've dealt with GBR before. I might even be labeled one of those pain in ass customers who kept returning driveshafts because they kept increasing my vibrations. But Bill was very good about the whole process. I ended up not going with GBR, but as for customer service, I couldn't have been happier.

Had the same experience with TW... increased vibe... however, excellent customer service... we spent a good deal of time on the phone walking through the issue, etc... ended up returning it and rebuilding my front for now w/ servicable u-joints. I will do business with TW again when the time comes to go beyond the OME setup I have on now.

Had a GBR on my D1.. it snapped when I was oh... crawling along at a steady pace on a dirt trail... wasn't pinned in btw rocks or spinning the wheels and suddenly getting traction... it just snapped out of no where while moving at a steady pace. Replaced at no charge, but I wasn't happy about it considering the how/when it happened.

my 2 cents...
 

jeffro0502

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I'm replacing mine on my daily driver 03 that rarely sees any trail time but still will be buying TW. Probably overkill in my case but will be glad for the peace of mind.
 
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gbrbill

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Here is accurate information:
1) All of our shafts are adapterless. When we did use adapters they were steel not aluminum like other custom built driveshafts that needed them because we have always wanted to build the best.

2) We use all genuine Dana/Spicer components. Contrary to what Peter has to say, Spicer components are the top shelf drive shaft components available in the USA. Our major competitor (Tom Woods) uses generic and lower quality components such as Neapco. Our drive shafts are slightly more expensive and this is the reason. Again we only want to build the best. I considered offering a lower priced shaft using these components but I couldn't bring myself to do it. I will have my girl Friday post a couple of pictures comparing the difference between what we use and what the other guy uses. The difference is very obvious.

3) Welded yokes - the only forged yokes on a TW shaft is the weld yokes. But guess what - every weld yoke in existence is forged. The key to understanding why is the word - weld. They are forged because you have to weld the tube to them. For the folks that don't understand welding, it is very difficult to weld cast steel so the parts that are welded are all forged steel. All of the CV yokes, H-blocks and flange yokes are cast including the generic stuff TW uses.

4) U-joint lifetime warranty. What you need to understand about warranties is that adding a warranty to a product doesn't make it a better product. It is not any stronger, it won't wear or perform better etc. TW u-joints are a private label u-joint that as best as we can tell are not any better than anything else out there. The only difference is the seals are yellow. The warranty is what as known as a "marketing" warranty. A positive thing about the TW warranty is that at least it is in writing unlike some other LR vendors "lifetime" warranties. My attitude is that if it isn't written down it doesn't exist. If you read TW's warranty, there are plenty of exclusions, which is usually the case with these types of warranties. That is not necessarily a bad thing but if you are going to write it down you had better have a way to eventually void it. An example is that these are usually to the original purchaser and hence not transferable. If memory serves me correctly, TW's is to the original purchaser.
We have tried to avoid these types of gimmicks. Our policy is that we stand behind what we sell and if you have a problem with it, call us.

No doubt this post will set off the usual hysterical reactions from the usual suspects. There are a few axe grinders, know nothings with no lives and people that regurgitate inaccurate info that they have read or heard somewhere. A perfect example is in this thread, to quote jymmiejamz "I don't think GBR has the best reputation here. I haven't dealt with them, but if you do a search you will see what I mean." Gee jymmie, how would you know anything about us, as you say, "I haven't dealt with them".
So if you take jymmie's advice and do a search, do some on these folks.

Bill
GBR
 

Andrew Homan

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Now you did it Bill, you created more D-web Hysteria. Weird, all my GBR parts still working great. But hey my water pump just went out so thats got to be your fault some how.:smilelol:
 

Jupiter Rover

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So Bill doesn't get torn apart here. I'll post the pics I have on the TW and GBR comparisons. I support GBR.

Friday is too long to wait!
 

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