I don’t use them. Too dangerous. In a world of pulse with modulation it’s a big no no. They have a place in the older simple circuit stuff. But full ground or 12v on a 5v circuit spells trouble. Also the probe is too fat and deforms anything you poke at it withWhere are you two at on powerprobes? I personally think they are the best tool out there for letting the smoke out of any modue.