Discoweb gurus' opinion on Seafoam as preventive maint.

Meisterbr?wn

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I'm trying to get up to speed on all the Discoweb knowledge and it sounds like people are using Seafoam to alleviate some common valve problems.

Well I don't have a valve problem (as far as I know) and am wondering if there is a consensus that using Seafoam as an engine treatment is good preventive maintenance?

FWIW: I've got a 2000 DII with about 58k miles.
 
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cmondieyoung

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There are basically two schools of thought on SeaFoam: (1) I used it, I love it, it works... and (2) I used it, didn't do shit, what did I do wrong, can anyone tell me where my MAF is, etc. :rolleyes:

My only advice would be use at your own risk. The application process is difficult and potentially dangerous...
 
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Sergei

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cmondieyoung said:
There are basically two schools of thought on SeaFoam: (1) I used it, I love it, it works... and (2) I used it, didn't do shit, what did I do wrong, can anyone tell me where my MAF is, etc. :rolleyes:

My only advice would be use at your own risk. The application process is difficult and potentially dangerous...

There is third one - used it, didnt do squat - useless. B&G and 3M are better.
 

RBBailey

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I've used it in both my cars. I think some people just get bad gas, because I buy only 89 octane and I still had only a little white smoke coming out. But, it did improve the overall feel of the engine at idle and while asking it to accelerate. I wouldn't say it is a miracle worker, just that it actually does what all of them advertise. I would not really see much improvement till I ran about 15 gallons of gas through it after doing the treatment though.

Also, pour it really really slowly. On the Rover I backed the stuff up into the filter when I poured it too fast!!
 

Apexdisco

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I plan on pouring some seafoam into my intake valves this weekend.


I've got a 99 DI with approx. 155K on it. I'll let you know if it helps with my occasional sticky valve at 65/70MPH.
 

rmuller

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RBBailey said:
I've used it in both my cars. I think some people just get bad gas, because I buy only 89 octane and I still had only a little white smoke coming out.

Just curious as to why you use 89 octane? price wise I can't see the difference too much, even with, figure 2.05 for regular, 2.20 for premium.. 22 gallons a week for a year 2345.20 vs 2516.80 .. i mean, 171.60 is still a little bit of money.. but isn't 89 octane possibly doing damage to your engine?

Please don't take this post as me trying to be an asshole, i'm just curious.

Ryan
 

Apexdisco

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"Take an empty 2 liter pop bottle. Poke a SMALL hole in the bottom on the side and another small vent hole on the top. Fill the bottle with water and block the vent hole. Start the car and hold it at a fast idle. Release the vent hole and dribble the water into the intake. Carefully, as to much water will stall the motor. Run through the entire 2 liter and virtually all the carbon will be gone.

Why this works: Carbon is water soluble. The water turns to steam in the combustion chamber and virtually pressure washes the cylinder.
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IS THIS CORRECT?
 
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JeffreyDV

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The water will work. You just have to be extra carefull not to put too much in at once. Stalling the engine would be the least of your worries.
 

curtis

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If water will work (and I don't doubt this) then you might as well go ahead and mix it at about a 1:1 ratio with coolant (ethylene glycol if I remeber). Any engine I have seen with a blown head gasket that was sucking up the coolant had an amazingly clean valvetrain.
 

marc olivares

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curtis,
yeah, water does work quite well, some of the old school guys in my shop use to use a 16oz bottle of COKE down the intake. they swear this works but i've never tired it.

as far as Seafoam, yes it does work and no it's not difficult to do. no it's not "Dangerous" and no there's "No potential danger" unless you're a total idiot. Cmongetaclue where do you get this shit from?

seafoam makes an aerosol version which makes the process very easy, simply spray into one of the vacuum line ports on the throttle body.

remember, with all cleaning agents, typically those who notice a big difference have really dirty engines. those who don't notice it that much were probably good to start with and just like to spend money on there truck. :D

and make sure you do it in an open area, as it smoke like a mutha! :eek:

oh, and as Sergie suggested, B&G 44k is better (add to fuel type), but it's twice the price.
 
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cmondieyoung

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marc olivares said:
as far as Seafoam, yes it does work and no it's not difficult to do. no it's not "Dangerous" and no there's "No potential danger" unless you're a total idiot. Cmongetaclue where do you get this shit from?

What the hell kind of bug do you have up your ass? I'm only offering a caveat to a procedure that is definitely NOT totally agreed upon as effective by the 4x4 community. And there are plenty of idiots around...

You don't consider pouring a foreign substance into your intake to the extent that it chokes your engine and causes it to stall a risky procedure? I can just picture some guy with an air filter swimming in Seafoam...
 

sven

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I used Seafoam once and I thought it made a difference in idle. But what scares me is the amount of smoke it made when I did it. This cant be good for the o2 sensors....
I would recommend you give it a try at least once.....but I dont think it should be part of a routine maint or anything like that.
 

Mike_Rupp

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cmondieyoung, do you know how to use Seafoam? How do you get your air filter wet by using Seafoam?

Seafoam is added downstream of both the MAF and air filter. I've stalled my engine using Seafoam and you know what? The engine started up again. I wonder if people that comment on threads actually have any first-hand knowledge or are just stating what they've read somewhere else.
 
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Kyle

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The water , or a mix of water as Curtis suggests is very very affective. I have done it for years and it will clean the pistons , chambers and heads like nobodys buisness. I wouldnt however reccomend it to most because just as sure as the sun rises and sets , some dipshit will rev the dog shit out of the engine and suck up about a gallon gulp into a chamber hydrolocking it and then its everyones fault but his own. For most of you , stick to the gas tank additives if it makes you feel better... Thats why they sell em...



Kyle
 
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cmondieyoung

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Mike_Rupp said:
cmondieyoung, do you know how to use Seafoam? How do you get your air filter wet by using Seafoam?

Seafoam is added downstream of both the MAF and air filter. I've stalled my engine using Seafoam and you know what? The engine started up again. I wonder if people that comment on threads actually have any first-hand knowledge or are just stating what they've read somewhere else.

I wasn't stating a specific scenario I had witnessed, only one I'm sure could happen to a neophyte user.

It isn't like these threads are only visited by Dusy Ershim Disco All-Stars... I'd say the majority of the questions posed on here are remedial (which is fine, but also informs my responses. If you're a Seafoam Captain or whatever, great, but it's been my experience from working at shops that people can do stupid shit sometimes.)
 

bri

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So what exactly is Seafoam supposed to do? Where can I find information about it?

Brian
 

curtis

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Never trust people who do not use thier real name...or at least one that sounds feasible. If they are using "handle" names they are likely on the run from the law, the IRS, or the Mob. :D