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kennith

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knewsom said:
More fuel (I'd gladly give up our electoral votes if you'd give me my country back):

Geez. You can have it, so long as you remove and relocate the whole damned thing.:rofl:

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Mike_Rupp

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Devildog01 said:
Is Florida still considered "the south"? I ask because I think 3/4's of the people living in Florida are from the tri-state area.

Florida isn't the south anymore. Like you mentioned, southern Florida is completely overrun by retirees and transplants from the New York area and Cuban immigrants. Whatever southern culture was there is gone. North Carolina is soon to follow.
 

LRflip

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Mike_Rupp said:
Florida isn't the south anymore. Like you mentioned, southern Florida is completely overrun by retirees and transplants from the New York area and Cuban immigrants. Whatever southern culture was there is gone. North Carolina is soon to follow.

It's already too late in places like Charlotte, Cary, and Chapel Hill.
 

Durt D1ver

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Devildog01 said:
Is Florida still considered "the south"? I ask because I think 3/4's of the people living in Florida are from the tri-state area.

Since my parents live next to your parents in Florida, I say no. It's just tri state south.
 

brian4d

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Mike_Rupp said:
Florida isn't the south anymore. Like you mentioned, southern Florida is completely overrun by retirees and transplants from the New York area and Cuban immigrants. Whatever southern culture was there is gone. North Carolina is soon to follow.

I disagree completely. Southern roots and tradition run deep in North Carolina. No amount of Northerners fleeing south will ever change that. You have countless small towns and semi large cities that won't fall anytime soon I can assure you. The three large cities in NC don't speak for everyone, as a matter of fact it's quite the opposite. Large cities are for the insecure anyhow. The kind of folks that always have to be doing something, mingling within someone or going out. Sounds stressful to me.

The South will actually change northerners for the better, I've seen it first hand.
Year 1: Wondering why I wave all the time
Year 2: Nods their head
Year 3: Full blown enthusiastic wave

Someone once said, 'You judge a good country not by the amount of new citizens coming in, but by the amount of citizens staying." Something like that. Same goes for the 'United' States. Take a look at this last election as another example. NC went back red. We barely went back red but none-the-less we did.

I don't hate the north by any means. But as long as I'm living and breathing it's going to be Southern air...
 

SGaynor

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LRflip said:
It's already too late in places like Charlotte, Cary, and Chapel Hill.

We moved to Cary last year...my daughter insisted that we weren't in the South (lived in MI for 9 yrs, Texas for 1). I didn't understand why she thought that, until I started talking to my neighbors.

No one in Cary is from NC, they are all from NY/NJ/New England.
 

K-rover

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SGaynor said:
We moved to Cary last year...my daughter insisted that we weren't in the South (lived in MI for 9 yrs, Texas for 1). I didn't understand why she thought that, until I started talking to my neighbors.

No one in Cary is from NC, they are all from NY/NJ/New England.

CARY= Central Area For Relocated Yankees
 

Mike_Rupp

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brian4d said:
Large cities are for the insecure anyhow. The kind of folks that always have to be doing something, mingling within someone or going out. Sounds stressful to me.

Or if you'd like a decent job. Within the Seattle area, you've got Amazon, Boeing, Microsoft, and Starbucks. All of those companies pay well. Once you get 50 miles away from Seattle, there is nada. You had better be self-employed or like working as a greeter at Walmart. I absolutely love eastern Washington, but unless you inherited farm land that's been in the family for 100 years, there's not much out there for people who'd like to make a few bucks.
 

brian4d

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Mike_Rupp said:
Or if you'd like a decent job. Within the Seattle area, you've got Amazon, Boeing, Microsoft, and Starbucks. All of those companies pay well. Once you get 50 miles away from Seattle, there is nada. You had better be self-employed or like working as a greeter at Walmart. I absolutely love eastern Washington, but unless you inherited farm land that's been in the family for 100 years, there's not much out there for people who'd like to make a few bucks.

Not sure about the west but here in the southeast more and more large companies are moving to rural areas. The Google Campus in Lenoir, NC is a great example. The day of large well paying companies located in large cities is a paradigm. Companies have realized a lower cost of living for their employees benefits everyone. Win-win. Low cost of living, work for large company, breath fresh air? I'm in.

http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/locations/lenoir/

https://www.bmwusfactory.com/
 

knewsom

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Companies in San Diego found out a long time ago that they could pay a lot less just because so many people want to live here, cost of living be damned. My wife just hired an assistant at work as an intern - the woman is two years younger than we are, has a law degree and has passed the bar in like 3 states. I think she's getting $12 an hour. ...and there's a line of similarly qualified people behind that woman around the block.

Jobs in LA that pay 600 a day? 200 a day here. Not to say there aren't good paying jobs here, but most of the salaries in SD vs the expected qualifications are redonkulous.
 

Mike_Rupp

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brian4d said:
Not sure about the west but here in the southeast more and more large companies are moving to rural areas. The Google Campus in Lenoir, NC is a great example. The day of large well paying companies located in large cities is a paradigm. Companies have realized a lower cost of living for their employees benefits everyone. Win-win. Low cost of living, work for large company, breath fresh air? I'm in.

http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/locations/lenoir/

https://www.bmwusfactory.com/

It just doesn't work that way on the West Coast. Other than the bay area, the Seattle area has the highest concentration of tech workers in the country. It makes no sense for a company like Google to have an office in rural areas of the West Coast. There wouldn't be any workers.

After Microsoft setup shop, Amazon and the rest followed.

http://www.google.com/about/jobs/locations/seattle-kirkland/

https://www.facebook.com/fbseattle

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/maps/seattle_map.html

http://start.cortera.com/company/research/k2k9oyq9r/cisco-systems-inc/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealNetworks
 

Timmy!!!!!!!

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Devildog01 said:
Is Florida still considered "the south"? I ask because I think 3/4's of the people living in Florida are from the tri-state area.

The only part of Florida that should be considered the South is the panhandle. I think there are more white trash redneck in that area than Lower Alabama...
 

brian4d

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Timmy!!!!!!! said:
The only part of Florida that should be considered the South is the panhandle. I think there are more white trash redneck in that area than Lower Alabama...

The drive from Pensacola to Gulf Shore, AL is always fun for me. I once saw two singlewide trailers stacked on top of each other and welded (or JB Welded) togeather. They had a tin man in the front yard as well. Very interesting. I have some pictures if I can find them.
 

knewsom

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Timmy!!!!!!! said:
The only part of Florida that should be considered the South is the panhandle. I think there are more white trash redneck in that area than Lower Alabama...

Oh, Floribama? Yup, I can attest to that. My former brother in law lives there. Hates it, can't wait to leave.
 

Rover Mac

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Entertaining thread,
and in the "spirit" of drinking and posting while driving on D web,:cheers: I was wondering....

Being a Scot, and trying to understand this ongoing U.S North / South "thing"
Is it considered comparable to the Scotland-v- England rivalry/ pisstaking ?
I was trying to think if there was an equivelant British "redneck". If the definition applies to poor white uneducated farmers, the the Scottish Clan system and the resulting Highland Clearances come to mind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances
and the Year of the Sheep in 1792 which saw large numbers emigrate to the U.S.

I then found this about the term redneck...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck

There is an archaic historic usage.
[edit]Scottish Covenanter usage
In Scotland in the 1640s, the Covenanters rejected rule by bishops, often signing manifestos using their own blood. Some wore red cloth around their neck to signify their position, and were called rednecks by the Scottish ruling class to denote that they were the rebels in what came to be known as The Bishop's War that preceded the rise of Cromwell.[22][23] Eventually, the term began to mean simply "Presbyterian", especially in communities along the Scottish border. Because of the large number of Scottish immigrants in the pre-revolutionary American south, some historians have suggested that this may be the origin of the term in the United States.[24]
Dictionaries document the earliest American citation of the term's use for Presbyterians in 1830, as "a name bestowed upon the Presbyterians of Fayetteville [North Carolina]".[


I've been to South Beach Fl which was entertaining but apparently that doesn't count.