EAS Idea

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Like most I have issues with mine airing down after sitting for too long (couple hours).

I have considered threading block, bags and tank to permanatly prevent leakage. Obviosly then use threaded lines.

Any thoughts, or has anyone done this?

Thank you,

 

[rover-renovations]

I've considered it, seems a lot of work to me when new orings will last another 5-7 years easy. I don't have access to free machine-work so that's a big issue for me, may not be for you. The bag tops are plastic, so may not be threadable.

A tight system should sit for weeks without dropping more than 1/4", your leaks may not be at the airlines either.

 

[tiger]

Most likely the leaks are the springs themselves? Put some soapy water in a spray bottle and see what is leaking...

 

[Pugsly]

Generally those compression fittings are rock-solid. As other have said, the leak most likely is from your bags. Arnott makes really nice replacement bags that have the ends crimped onto them...

 

[derekdilks]

Anyone ever upgrade to the Arnott Gen III airsprings? I'm considering for my 95 LWB. I hear they have more travel for better articulation? Not sure of the cost...

 

[p m]

I like Arnott springs a lot. Unfortunately, I have a pile of good RRC stock airbags to dispose of first...

 

[skippy3k]

I had Arnott Gen III's on my P38. They were excellent.

 

[thedude]

get a coil spring conversion. you are going to continue to have problems out of the EAS. by the way, be very careful what you say on this board about the P38 EAS. many get all defensive and bitchy. save the headache and money; go with the coils friend.

:victory:

 

[Urban Exploer]

get a coil spring conversion. you are going to continue to have problems out of the EAS. by the way, be very careful what you say on this board about the P38 EAS. many get all defensive and bitchy. save the headache and money; go with the coils friend.

:victory:

Coils suck.

EAS is the best, thats the reason I hate my D2, I miss the EAS. Rebuild it and get another 70,000 trouble free miles out of it. Gen III's are nice, but where just to expensive.

Denis is really good at this, go to rangerover.net's forum for more info on the P38 and EAS. After a hour on the phone with him, never had a problem out of my EAS.

Leo

 

[Robert Page]

P38 EAS. Why would you ditch it? It is easy to fix and reliable when properly maintained. The difference in ride and articulation alone is enough not to go coil. See rover-renovations.com for help and parts.

 

[derekdilks]

As with many things, it depends on the use... I want to keep my bone stock 95 RRC on air, I like the ride and think it's a neat feature, don't mind the $$

But for a trail rig, or for a reliable everyday driver, I'd go coil...

 

[Robert Page]

Agreed. It really depends on how you use it and maintain it. As with anything technically advanced, they are also potentially less reliable. If you want to do this for reliability for a trail truck, look at a RRC. Coils and simple all over.

 

[thedude]

fuck guys, come on. much debated is this issue and it is highly subjective. however, how much routine "maintenance" is needed on a coil spring? the reliability of a coil to an airbage (especially the P38's airbag) is a no brainer; coil has it beat hands down. i do agree that the EAS is a nice feature, but for ANY offroading i have found it wanting.

 

[BuyRovers]

Coils are without a doubt more reliable and cheaper but if you are determined to keep the airbags go arnotte. I have the gen III's on my 01 range rover and they are great...

C-

 

[thedude]

coils suck?! what the fuck are smoking guy? i am speechless. :rofl:

 

[Urban Exploer]

Expirence. I miss EAS, it rocks compared to my coils.

Just get a Disco if you want coils. Then you can get more off-road stuff. Otherwise, don't mess up the P38, you want have a peep out of the EAS for another 70,000 plus miles after a rebuild.

Go to rr.net like I said, you can get fair and great advice there.

Leo

 

[p m]

but for ANY offroading i have found it wanting.

A fellow from LRCSD is driving a P38A on airbags everywhere - it's been through Rubicon, most trails in Moab (here's one shot), and a bunch of others I don't even know about.
And he has more wheel travel than I can eke out of my D1 with OME HD coils.

 

[thedude]

yeah, yeah, yeah. if the EAS was so good then we wouldnt be having this conversation.

Facts:
1. coils are more reliable on or off road beyond this magic 70k mile number that you guys are throwing out. this all without the "maintenance" that will cost your ass.

2. i have never wheeled an EAS. however, i have wheeled rovers my whole life and i have never, with the exception of this board, heard anyone claim the stock or Arnotte yielded more articulation. does it perform better off road than coils? hell no.

how many of you with D1's or RRC's go home after the trail and inspect your cils for leaks? Or how many of you notice a sinking corner after only a couple idle hours? yeah, thought so. I understand this is a matter of preference. It is a decision that needs to be made based on the use of the truck. with that said, in no way are these EAS systems better than coils.

 

[p m]

stock RRC or P38 airbags have about 9.5" of travel, same as stock or OME springs.
Before hand-waving, check your numbers.

 

[gmookher]

i test drove several coil sprung vs air sprung d2 before electing to buy a coil sprung d2 for a few reasons:
1-i liked the way the coil sprung rear end matched the front
2-i felt the engine generated more power without the 2nd air compressor drawing energy from it
3-i'd have tossed the air springs for my rte 3+" lift anyways

am i imagining #2?