Engel lid falling off / Mod

Kai

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Guys,
Engel owners will appreciate this!
I know everyone has a problem with that damn lid falling off. I solved the problem by putting a screw next to the hinge. Hasn't fallen off yet! :D
 

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agro1

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Although functional, I'd be very careful drilling a screw into the outer housing of my Engle, or any refrigerator for that matter... Plus, what happens when you want to clean the inside and remove the lid ? Sure you can just remove the screw, but do that a few times and the threading the screw has created is going to be junk and the hole will no longer be able hold the screw, requiring a larger diameter screw...Then your stuck with a hole in your Engle. Not to mention it's ugly. Ever try just opening/closing it carefully ? When I open the lid on mine, I just pull it towards me and up. Never seems to come off and even if it did, I sure as hell wouldn't resort to some sort of half ass screw technique drilled into such a nice piece of equipment.
 

Kai

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Well, the problem I had was everyone who got shit out of my fridge would always knock the lid off.

As far as it being ugly, noone would have ever even known about yet seen it, had I not pointed it out.

Agro,
What is with the blatant, negative attitude? Just say something like "dood, I see your solution is functional, yet I see you could have done something a little more aestetically pleasing".
 
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agro1

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Kai said:
Well, the problem I had was everyone who got shit out of my fridge would always knock the lid off.

As far as it being ugly, noone would have ever even known about yet seen it, had I not pointed it out.

Agro,
What is with the blatant, negative attitude? Just say something like "dood, I see your solution is functional, yet I see you could have done something a little more aestetically pleasing".

So don't let other people monkey with your shit.

If you asked me to grab a Coke out of your Engle and it had that screw in it, I would notice it immediately. But that's just me...

Negative ?? You asked man, you posted the picture. Did you expect every Engle owner to say, "GEE thanks, that's and EXCELLENT solution!!" ??
Plus, if you ever have any problem with it and have to send it back to Engle, having a HOLE IN IT might just void the warranty - not to mention the resale value if you ever decide to get rid of it. If I'm raising valid points that make you question the hole you drilled in you Engle, then maybe you should have asked first and drilled later.
 

Kai

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That's some great fucking information Agro!

Notice:

To all the people who have gotten cokes, beers, gatorades, etc. out of my fridge, you will no longer be allowed to do so! Due to a manufacturers design flaw only "Engel Certified" users will be access the interior contents of my fridge. Sorry for the problems this creates. Hopefully you will not die of thirst.


Also:

Dear Engel,
I apologize for putting a tiny hole if my fridge. Please see this as an oversight on my part for not contacting prior to making modifications to your product. I promise to contact you in the future prior to any changes and or modifications. Please accept my apology and still cover my fridge under the warranty that has already expired.
 
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agro1

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Kai said:
That's some great fucking information Agro!

Notice:

To all the people who have gotten cokes, beers, gatorades, etc. out of my fridge, you will no longer be allowed to do so! Due to a manufacturers design flaw only "Engel Certified" users will be access the interior contents of my fridge. Sorry for the problems this creates. Hopefully you will not die of thirst.


Also:

Dear Engel,
I apologize for putting a tiny hole if my fridge. Please see this as an oversight on my part for not contacting prior to making modifications to your product. I promise to contact you in the future prior to any changes and or modifications. Please accept my apology and still cover my fridge under the warranty that has already expired.


FROM: ENGLE
TO: KAI DUSSLING
RE: ENGLE WARRANTY REPAIR

Dear Kai,
We are sorry to inform you that your warranty claim has been denied. Due to the modifications made to your freezer/fridge Model 45, we are unable to repair your unit based on the manufacturers warranty outlined in the warranty section of your user manual. We are sorry for the inconvienence this may casue you.

And you're a fucking moron if you think APOLOGIZING to Engle for drilling a hole in your fridge is going to make them all of a sudden change their entire warranty policy. "please accept my apology and cover my fridge under warranty" - LOL
 
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Eric N.

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Kai said:
fridge under the warranty that has already expired.


Not that I think putting a screw in it was the best way to go either but, if it's not covered anymore and you didn't use a long screw and hose up anything inside of it. Then hey, it's your fridge drill away all you want..


Posting the picture though did invite comments from anyone that wanted to make them so you should have expected responses whether they are going to be good or bad..

my 2 pennies would be that if you don't want a bad opinion then don't ask ( or post pictures ) for one...
 
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D Chapman

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Do you really think by drilling a hole in the fridge, at that location, is going to void a warranty? If dude punctured a hole in one of the cooling coils, then yes, I'm sure it would. But, that does not seem to be the case here, does it? The guy fixed his problem and offered some advice to others....No, it may not be the best, or most attractive fix I've ever seen, but I guess it works. If the lid falling off your Engel (if you really have one) does not bother you, then don't put a screw in yours. I can see this being a PITA to folks with Engels, especially if your driving down the road and reach for a drink...

And how do you know his Engel is still in warranty? Don't that only carry a year warranty?
 

JSQ

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Kai said:
Guys,
Engel owners will appreciate this!
I know everyone has a problem with that damn lid falling off. I solved the problem by putting a screw next to the hinge. Hasn't fallen off yet! :D


yuck.

you sure you don't want to krylon the engel black while you're at it?

I'm with Luke on this one.
I'm not here to argue with you or call you a bunch of names ad nauseum I just wish you'd thought this through more carefully before you stuck a screw in what is a really nice, expensive piece of equipment.

couldn't you at least have put the screw in straight?

as always, don't be to horrified by what people have to say.
you put up a post of your awsome mod there are going to be people who don't like it.
and they will let you know.
that's dweb.
 

Jaime

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Agro,

You can make the valid points you made without pissing people off. It's really not that hard.

Now if you're just trolling, well then, you are very good at it.

For anyone else who is getting a little bored with Agro's posts, or does not want to get sucked in by his attitude, go to User CP/Miscellaneous/ Buddy/Ignore Lists, and put him in your ignore list. His postings will be indicated in any threads as being in your ignore list.

And while I don't have an Engel, it just seems like a design flaw in the unit that the manufacturer should have addressed. So Kai's solution seems simple and functional.

The only improvement I would suggest, but can't really tell if it would work or not as far as clearances, since I don't have an Engel, would be to use a small rivnut and machine screw. This would allow repeated removals and insertions of the screw without damaging or enlarging the hole.
 

JSQ

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whatismore, like luke, i consider the lid being removable as a useful feature.

Here's an odd example of that application:
Just yesterday I wanted to test fit an engel 45 in my friend's tacoma. His truck was over at the Toyota fab shop near our shop. Did I want to lug the engel over there? Definitely not. Even if I got it over there, he has these race seats in the truck which don't tilt forward. When we install the Engel we're going to have to take one of the seats out. So how did I measure it all up? I pulled the lid off an Engel we had at our shop and walked over to the toyota place. Since the lid is the exact width of the Engel itself I was able to use it to make sure there was room. Very simple.
Not the most common application, but I couldn't have done it without the removable lid.

I'd say the biggest reason to keep it removable is to clean it easily.
 

F18Guy

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agro1 said:
Although functional, I'd be very careful drilling a screw into the outer housing of my Engle, or any refrigerator for that matter... Plus, what happens when you want to clean the inside and remove the lid ? Sure you can just remove the screw, but do that a few times and the threading the screw has created is going to be junk and the hole will no longer be able hold the screw, requiring a larger diameter screw...Then your stuck with a hole in your Engle. Not to mention it's ugly. Ever try just opening/closing it carefully ? When I open the lid on mine, I just pull it towards me and up. Never seems to come off and even if it did, I sure as hell wouldn't resort to some sort of half ass screw technique drilled into such a nice piece of equipment.


Okay, we are getting a bit too sensitive around here. I don't think the above quote is hostile at all. Geesh. If I took offense everytime I took a Jab about having a D2 as opposed to having a D1 or whatever, I would be on heavy meds right now.

Kai, unlike your great mods of the past; I think that screw looks like crap. ;)
 

Kai

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agro1 said:
FROM: ENGLE
TO: KAI DUSSLING
RE: ENGLE WARRANTY REPAIR

Dear Kai,
We are sorry to inform you that your warranty claim has been denied. Due to the modifications made to your freezer/fridge Model 45, we are unable to repair your unit based on the manufacturers warranty outlined in the warranty section of your user manual. We are sorry for the inconvienence this may casue you.

And you're a fucking moron if you think APOLOGIZING to Engle for drilling a hole in your fridge is going to make them all of a sudden change their entire warranty policy. "please accept my apology and cover my fridge under warranty" - LOL


Agro,
You missed the point, I was being a smartass.
 

Kai

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Guys,
I agree with everyone, it does look like shit. The closeup photo isn't doing any justice either. Actually, it probably could have been done a little cleaner but it was done in haste as i was packing the cooler for a weekend trip. I was tired of the damn thin falling off. It really isn't that visible unless you really know what you are looking for.

Paul,
Thanks for the nice comments. I wanted to wait till it was completed before posting pictures but here is my latest project:
 

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JSQ

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oh dear lord make it stop!

I think you're just trying to bait people into bashing you so that the i didn't ask for your opinon argument can start.

you're feeling self-conscious about your painted wheels thread being eclipsed so you're just going to post your hacking until you start a post war.

I don't appreciate your ruse.
 
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agro1

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D Chapman said:
Do you really think by drilling a hole in the fridge, at that location, is going to void a warranty?

And how do you know his Engel is still in warranty? Don't that only carry a year warranty?

Yes, I do believe that if you drill a hole in an Engle, it will void the warranty. I'll call and ask and get back to you on that one.

Who cares if HIS Engle is no longer under warranty. He posted this for "ENGLE OWNERS". Well I'm an Engle owner, and mine is still under warranty. Do you own an Engle Dan ? Some other guy out there may also have one under warranty and read this thread. I posted the info I did for others who MIGHT have one under warranty and to consider this before drilling a fucking hole. It's called adding to the database of knowledge, Dan, and trying to help others in the future, not just now.

And as far as my attitude...I never swore at anyone until this comment:
Kai said:
That's some great fucking information Agro!

Jack - LOL
 

JSQ

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straight from the backyard to Kai's roof!

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