GEMS Rear Crankshaft Seal - Fitting Advice

_ExpeditionMan

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The RAVE says to lubricate the seal lip, but does not specify the ID or the OD... has anyone had success doing one or the other?
 

discostew

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Inboard. I put a light coating of grease on the sealing lip. Just a little. Your going to need the tool that drives the seal to the correct depth. There is also a second tool that protects the seal as you push it into position before driving it home with the first tool I mentioned.
While your doing the rear main seal there is a couple other things you need to do back there. The cam bore plug at the back of the block leaks. I get them out with a slide hammer with a screw at the working end of it. A couple hits inward to start the screw then screw it into the plug and pull it out. Rover calls for a green thread locker for a seal, but I use that aviation gasket maker too.
Then of course the cross seals.
 

_ExpeditionMan

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Inboard. I put a light coating of grease on the sealing lip. Just a little. Your going to need the tool that drives the seal to the correct depth. There is also a second tool that protects the seal as you push it into position before driving it home with the first tool I mentioned.
While your doing the rear main seal there is a couple other things you need to do back there. The cam bore plug at the back of the block leaks. I get them out with a slide hammer with a screw at the working end of it. A couple hits inward to start the screw then screw it into the plug and pull it out. Rover calls for a green thread locker for a seal, but I use that aviation gasket maker too.
Then of course the cross seals.
Are those special tools really necessary? The seal guide is $50 and the driving piece is over $250. I was able to match a 3" PVC pipe cap cover as a tool to drive the seal.

Functionally, is the seal supposed to spin with the crank or remain stationary while the crank spins along the lip?
 

_ExpeditionMan

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The seal stays stationary. If your sure your driving the seal to the correct depth great. But the depth is critical.
I know the RAVE does not show the depth because they assume you have the special tool. I did inspect my existing seal and it looked to be just slightly subflush, basically just off the inital taper with the ID lip/edge of the seal scrubbing the back of the crank. Is that correct?
 
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discostew

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I know the RAVE does not show the depth because they assume you have the special tool. I did inspect my existing seal and it looked to be just slightly subflush, badically just off the inital taper with the ID lip/edge of the seal scrubbing the back of the crank. Is that correct?
I’ve never really checked that close. I just hit the thing till it sounds like it’s pretty well driven home and move on. But your way sounds more exciting
 
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