General Motors = Head-In-Butt

utahdog2003

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Anybody watching the Tour De France giggle at the new Saab 9-7x commercials where the Viggen jet morphs into a 40k Trailblazer? What a POS. Take Saab...which did pretty ok outfitting all the librarians and professors in New England, discontinue all Swedish cars and replace with overpriced Opals (which don't sell as Opals!) and shit Chevy trucks!:rofl: :banghead:

Now...word that not only is the Hummer H1 dead, but there is growing feeling within GM that Hummer be tossed into the weeds altogether. Seems, as of the end of May, the Toyota Prius has outsold Hummer...ALL 3 Hummers!:smilelol:

Carlos Ghosn can't get to Detroit fast enough...and he'll need more dough than Nissan and Renault have combined to turn around GM. What a shame.

GM aint alone...Daimler Chrysler runs add with the German "Dr Z" dude...'convincing' us that the Charger is German tuned (and not just a rebodied 20 year old E-Class) and now Car and Driver has an article this month talking about all the cool stuff available with a blue oval on the grill...at least if you're in a country other than the US!

Mismanagement of an entire industry is embarassing...and please dont give me the "it's the unions" BS...because unions run the show for a good many plants NOT associated with american brands and they seem to be alive and kicking. And it aint the pensions and supplier contracts and steel costs and blah blah blah...It's that the Cavalier was so embarassing for so long that the Cobalt doesn't have a chance no matter what king of a car it is. That and when I took the wife to the Ford Dealer to have the old POS Stang fixed, they teased her about needing a make-up mirror!...Wha YEAR is this!?

There was a reason why I went to the LR dealer to get a Disco before they became Tauruses. 10 year-old Focus my ass...:patriot:
 
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utahdog2003

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WAIT! There's More! Now..it would seem (according to the gods that live in my Sony) that if the guy in the grocery line behind me is buying more manly food, I can restore my mojo by buying the Goldie-Locks H3? Oh my, these folks are lost!:nopity:
 

az_max

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utahdog2003 said:
WAIT! There's More! Now..it would seem (according to the gods that live in my Sony) that if the guy in the grocery line behind me is buying more manly food, I can restore my mojo by buying the Goldie-Locks H3? Oh my, these folks are lost!:nopity:


Yeah, basically there's very few american cars that I would buy new. None made in the past 10 years that I would buy used.Even some of the Asian cars I would avoid.
I have a 03 g-35 I bought used. Before that I had a 98 Cavalier. It lasted 100k miles, but was going to need alot to keep going.

That being said, I drove my 16yr old Range Rover 360 miles (round trip) on saturday. It included 15 miles at 4.5mph on a 6% grade (u-haul hill on i-17). Rover did great, temp gauge didn't move. Three cars and two big trucks over heated. guy in newer toyota tacoma smoked his clutch (driver error, not the maker's fault).I may not have been the fastest going up the hills, but I made it on one piece. :D
 

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I've owned three Saabs: 1987 900s Two Door; 1997 900SE Turbo; 2001 9-5SE Turbo. And I loved each of them, very sweet Sweedish cars. One of the things I liked about them was the aircraft heritage. But alas, they seem to have been eaten alive by fat American car companies -- like LR is going to have happen to it within about 5 years.
 

utahdog2003

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RBBailey said:
I've owned three Saabs: 1987 900s Two Door; 1997 900SE Turbo; 2001 9-5SE Turbo. And I loved each of them, very sweet Sweedish cars. One of the things I liked about them was the aircraft heritage. But alas, they seem to have been eaten alive by fat American car companies -- like LR is going to have happen to it within about 5 years.


C'mon, man...you mean you don't want a Trailblazer with the ignition relocated to between the seats? They needed that aircraft engineering prowess to move that tumbler and a few wires. 39 grand...what a deal!:rolleyes: