H2 belongs in the driveway - proof

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syoung

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H2's with the locking diff etc are pretty capable, although difficult to drive because of poor visibility. The main problem I saw with them was they weren't durable enough to handle off-road use over the course of time.
 
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..well.. i love that video..! ..and it makes me even more laugh about those stupid hummers.........! hihihi..
 

bri

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Actually, from what I have heard, this happened because of spinning tires.

IMO, the driver side is spinning made, all traction on the passenger side. I think the rears are spinning too, then some traction happens and POP.

No traction, then traction and the weak link breaks, on a D1 its CVs on H2 its a tie rod.

On H2 tie rods get upgraded quickly by knowledgable people.

A little bit of momentum vs the herky-jerky over that vs skinny pedal once wedged, and that H2 would have been fine.

I love it when people just say somethings shit because of a weak link in the system. Take your D1 out there with a stock track rod over some good boulders here in CO, and you'll have cooked spaghetti for track rod at the end of the day. First time it happened to me, buy the end of the day turning the wheel would bend the track rod.

In the hands of a capable driver an H2 is capable. Not my gig, too trendy for me, but what the fuck, I own a Discovery which is also, like it or not, a status vehicle. Thats why I keep mine in perfect white trash form. LOL.
 

ange87

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Ok, ok I was just trying to give hummer owners a hard time not a forensic based criticism of the H2 - I'll leave that kind of analysis to others. Now about those Wiemaraners...:)
 

bri

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LOL. No worries mate.

Just BTW, though, there are a few H2 owners out there that will take them on trails like Wheeler Lake, Spring Creek and other fairly tough trails. I never give them shit since you never know when you're winch is gonna go out to lunch.
 

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bri, in wholehearted agreement but - a question about that track rod comment...

um, everything on my Discovery 1 is still stock from the waste-down and, being a relatively not-experienced off-roader, I know I've put my car far more to the test than than the American-made pieces of shit I find in the spillway. And still, it's managed to repeatedly put them all to shame.

I haven't seen an aftermarket track rod or even had the possibility of buying one ever mentioned to me, but - I guess what I'm trying to say is - a [pre-2001?] Land Rover, right off the shelf, can take much more of a beating than, well - the H2 we saw in the video, which couldn't overcome what I do on a daily basis. (Yes, I park my Discovery on a 35-degree incline in the backyard.)
 
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Someone could easily post a ton of pics of broken Discos too, as if it proves something.
 

maxyedor

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Not that this solves anything, but I was looking at a used BMW 745 at the Hummer dealer the other day. When the salesman saw me get out of the Disco he tried to sell me on an H2. I asked him if it could make it through the Rubicon with some minor mods. He said no, I asked but isn't suposed to be a Hummer and go offroad? He said that itjust isn't designed to go "off-road" it can go off of the road, but not the "rock crawler" trails I was talking about. I have no idea what he ment by that, but I left confused and without a BMW.
 

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Just read an article in the sacramento bee yesterday, GM may be forced to recall several hundred thousand H2's as well as suburbans and tahoes due to a faulty knuckle that fractures causing wheels to come flying off, no joke the H2 may be the demise of GM. Some H2 owners that were interviewd for the article lost wheels at as little as 35 mph, on road, with less tha 400 miles on the car. POS if you ask me.
 

maxyedor

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Rover grenade said:
Just read an article in the sacramento bee yesterday, GM may be forced to recall several hundred thousand H2's as well as suburbans and tahoes due to a faulty knuckle that fractures causing wheels to come flying off, no joke the H2 may be the demise of GM. Some H2 owners that were interviewd for the article lost wheels at as little as 35 mph, on road, with less tha 400 miles on the car. POS if you ask me.
That issue highlights the underlying quality control issues going on with most American cars nowadays. That knuckle is probably made out of crappy mild steel when 4130 would be a better material, but to save a few cents on each truck they threw better judgement out the window.

I'm looking for a new car, and got to thinking about all the cars I've owned the newest American car I've ever owned is a 1963. I have a huge list of possible new cars, and not one of them is American. I like to buy American, but to me quality comes before National pride and there just isn't any American car I feel that I could count on to last 250k miles. My '85 Benz finally gave up the gohst a few years ago with 387k on the clock, and the odometer broke and was frozen for the last 6 years I owned it. I have never heard of a Chevy/ Ford/ Dodge lasting that long.
 

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yah!

Look under an F-150 sometime. Note that one of those bolts shearing would render the vehicle useless. No redundancy and, by inspection, a Factor of Safety 0.5

That's why you hear about these cars driving along the highway (where stresses are uniform, constant and entirely predictable) and breaking an axle!!