Has any one ever...?

nathansharkey

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Has any one ever been able to spin 33" tires w/ 4:10 gearing in Hi Range with Center Diff Locked and a True Track in the front and a Detroit in the back in a Disco II w/ a 4.0L Petrol Engine w/ 60K miles on it in snow or deep mud? Engine is in great shape, no leaks, doesn't burn oil and followed the Land Rover Preventative Maintenance Program diligently. I am getting 300 miles on a tank. Also the truck weighed with 2 adults 3 children under 6 and one Boxer dog, gear, groceries for 1 week, clothes for a family of 5 for 1 week, diapers for 1 child for 1 week, fridge, Awning, aftermarket bumpers, winches-(steel cable on the front and synthetic on the back), dual batteries, swing away tire carrier (High Lift and 3 20L Jerry Cans mounted to it) 90 Watt solar panel, RTT, Sliders, drinking water system, 20L water storage, aluminum Safari Style drawers ect weighs in at 6,000lbs.

I haven't been able to spin my tires ever since I threw the 33's and lockers in, even with the 4:10 gears (for the past 2-3 years). The engine revs up to about 3-4K RPM and then nothing, it just stays there. I have to put it in 4Low just to get some wheel spin which sucks because the tires won't spin fast enough to clean the lugs out.

I am thinking about switching the engine out for a 4.6L to get some more power or possibly going with a fuel injected 327 crate engine. Any thoughts on this?

Is there that much more power in a 4.6L?

I have upgraded the rear axles, but haven't touched the front ones yet. STill waiting to decide what motor to put in. If I go with some sort of a 327, or a 350, or a 383, or a 302 conversion, I will more than likely end up getting rid of the entire drive train and going all custom complete w/ a 3 suspension link set up. If there is quite a bit more power in the 4.6, I will probably keep the drive train as it is now. I am in mostly deep snow and thick slimy mud, not a lot of rocks, although there are some trails further west that I have encountered some long rocky stretches, mostly the size of soccer balls, not really anything like Utah where there is all solid rock stretches. These trails here have rocky, sandy patches but for the most part it is mud and snow.

Thanks for puting up with the long read.

Nathan
 

Blue

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you know.....I just can't say that I've ever duplicated your exact circumstances....LOFL

33" tires w/ 4:10 gearing in Hi Range with Center Diff Locked and a True Track in the front and a Detroit in the back in a Disco II w/ a 4.0L Petrol Engine w/ 60K miles on it in snow or deep mud? with 2 adults 3 children under 6 and one Boxer dog, gear, groceries for 1 week, clothes for a family of 5 for 1 week, diapers for 1 child for 1 week, fridge, Awning, aftermarket bumpers, winches-(steel cable on the front and synthetic on the back), dual batteries, swing away tire carrier (High Lift and 3 20L Jerry Cans mounted to it) 90 Watt solar panel, RTT, Sliders, drinking water system, 20L water storage, aluminum Safari Style drawers ect weighs in at 6,000lbs.
 

Blue

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my 4.0 L D1 sometimes couldn't spin the tires in high range when the truck was unloaded and they were only puny 245/75's.
 

Mongo

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so your tryin' to spin your tires in a...

















rover...



















































































































































:rofl:

your only shot would be to change the hi gear in your t-case to a 1.4 gear...


I can spin my 37's, but that's with 1.6 hi gears with 4.11 in the toy diff
 
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nathansharkey

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MUSKYMAN said:
if your trying to spin the tires you should be dropping it into low range....then yeah no problem.

In mud or snow, the lug pattern on my tires are designed to clean with wheel spin. I can't get enough wheel spin (RPM of the tire) to properly clean the tread with my current gearing. With my current engine, I can't get enough power to spin the tires in the correct gearing, thus giving me enough spinning (tire RPM) to clean the treads.

How does the 4.6L engine do compared to the 4.0 with 33's and 4:10 gearing, locked and heavily loaded?
:banghead:
Nathan
 

nathansharkey

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Mongo said:
so your tryin' to spin your tires in a...

















rover...



















































































































































:rofl:

your only shot would be to change the hi gear in your t-case to a 1.4 gear...


I can spin my 37's, but that's with 1.6 hi gears with 4.11 in the toy diff

The 1.6 Hi Gear will make Highway travel unbearable from my understanding with only a 33" tire. What has been your experience on the highway, would you do a 1.6 Hi gear with 33" tires?

Nathan
 

nathansharkey

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Blue said:
you know.....I just can't say that I've ever duplicated your exact circumstances....LOFL

33" tires w/ 4:10 gearing in Hi Range with Center Diff Locked and a True Track in the front and a Detroit in the back in a Disco II w/ a 4.0L Petrol Engine w/ 60K miles on it in snow or deep mud? with 2 adults 3 children under 6 and one Boxer dog, gear, groceries for 1 week, clothes for a family of 5 for 1 week, diapers for 1 child for 1 week, fridge, Awning, aftermarket bumpers, winches-(steel cable on the front and synthetic on the back), dual batteries, swing away tire carrier (High Lift and 3 20L Jerry Cans mounted to it) 90 Watt solar panel, RTT, Sliders, drinking water system, 20L water storage, aluminum Safari Style drawers ect weighs in at 6,000lbs.

Now did you mean "laughing on floor laughing" or "laughing out fucking loud"?

:rofl:
Nathan
 

Slappy

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nathansharkey said:
Good catch, its late and I am getting tired. LOL

Edit...It should actually be Fairies as in a plural (more than 1)

Nathan
Better watch out! The grammar police have been out lately!
 

Blue

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can't comment on your gearing questions, but I can definitely say that the difference between my old 4.0 dog and the new 4.6 is like night and day.
 

mgreenspan

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If you're not getting stuck, then your tires are doing fine and don't need to get cleaned out, right? Who cares if mud or snow sticks in them if you are getting through everything fine. Cause if you were getting stuck... your tires would be spinning. And if you're at a dead stop and your tires are spinning then I just don't know, it wouldn't make sense.

Seems like different tires would be a cheaper way to solve the cleaning out issues than getting a bigger engine or new drivetrain to allow spinning.
 

DennyDoler

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Take your headlight washers and turn it towards your tire with some de-ice and maybe you'll get that wheel spin you so desire back