Have gas prices affected you?

garrett

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RAV said:
No.

If I was all that worried about the price of gas, gas mileage, the effects of humans on Al Gore's "global warming", minimizing my "global footprint", etc I probably wouldn't own three Land Rovers, have a Land Rover club or be interested in this site. That's not to say I don't care about the environment and the principals of Tread Lightly. I just get tired of all the gloom and doom B.S. Everytime this type of gas price related question comes up on here I just have to laugh. As others have said gas is cheap here compared to EVERYWHERE else on the planet! So in a nutshell, no.

it's not "global footprint", it's carbon footprint. even if Al's information is not 100% correct or a little left for some of you, i can't see how it is a bad idea to look at how you can reduce your carbon footprint. either by purchasing less "junk" at Wal Mart, turning the t-stat down at night, driving less in general, recycling, using your own shopping bags (no plastic), etc.

i own 5 Rovers. does that mean i am a hypocrite? not likely.

before some of your start yapping about "hippies", etc., realize that what you consider modern day "hippies" are nothing more than lazy, uneducated, stinky beggers. they are misguided individuals that have no direction in life. the real "hippies" if you must call them that, are people you'd never guess were. i'd consider them progressive idealogists. :) they are MIT and Harvard grads that drive around in Tdi's and live in city, not in yurts or in communes.

lots of people say they "care", but very few actually follow through with changing their habits that confirm that.

maybe instead of buying that niece some crappy plastic toy for the holidays get them this:


http://www.heifer.org/site/c.edJRKQNiFiG/b.204586/

http://www.kiva.org/
 

C Ross

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I spend more. I have a 70 mile round trip commute now. I drive the 300e daily but looking for a newer DD.

Ross
 

motorrad11

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because it is difficult to extract and extracting it is basically strip mining on a massive scale. That and burning it would mean would we would put half of Colorado into the air.11-06-2007 07:43 PM

Not using this method.......

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_4051709,00.html

Plus, as a chemist, I'm not buying the CO2 - global warming connection. Water vapor is the largest "greenhouse" gas in the atmosphere so why aren't we talking about regulating it? THis entire carbon issue is nothing more than the largest power grab by governments in the history of the world.

IMHO...
 

garrett

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it's a damn simple and smart way to "pass it on". not to mention it is not just for 2nd and 3rd world countries, but also includes people here in the USA.
she might like the idea of Heifer too. all my nieces and nephews are getting them as gifts for others this year at x-mas. like they need another crappy toy they will use for 2 weeks. or another x-box game to keep them glued to the tv. yuck.
 

MarkP

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I'll say it again. This is not a oil supply and demand issue. This is a dollar falling off a cliff problem. As a foriegn supplier of anything I would want more physical dollars today given the reduced relative value of the dollar. Bernanke is fighting deflation with dollars.

Look at gold and silver over the last 6 months for correlation.
 

Leslie

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Fuel prices go up, increased transportation costs are rolled into product prices across the board, everyone pays for it, even if you walk to the store.


Yeah, we're effected. I still bought a pickup to drive, because I needed a pickup; I'm not happy about the loss in mpg, but, the mortgage is still being paid, groceries are still being bought. Not as much to go into savings, not any extravagant spending, but, life goes on.

I see the whole thing on 'global warming' as, more of a pollution control. If instead of trying to scare people into attempting to control the environment, they instead approached it from a "let's not mess our own nest!" I'd be all on board w/ it, and, I suppose I am. The things you would do in the "name of global warming curbing" are great ideas to do for the same of being economical, reducing pollution, etc.,. I support the steps to be taken, just not the ideology behind....
 

Durda

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DiscoS2 said:
Fuel prices have encouraged me to ride my 55mpg motorcycle on my daily 70-mile round trip in weather conditions that would normally make me opt for the tall latte and Rover for the drive.


55mpg? What kind of gas hog are you ridding? ;) I'm pissed if get less than 70mpg, on my bike. :D


So at ~75mpg; gas prices will have to get really high before it will start to affect me.
 

landrovered

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I have replaced my O2 sensors, increased my tire pressure a bit and done a tune up to get better mpg and I combine my trips to town.
 

F18Guy

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So why is there such a difference between diesel and regular unleaded? This morning I saw $3.21 for diesel and $2.82 for reg unl.

For my current 70 mile round trip commute; I have looked at the Camry Hybrid and read about the 2008 Jetta Diesel. Not sure which is the best way to go...either way is better than feeding the pig...LOL

I talked to Scott (motorrad11) this morning and he showed me the new Bimmer 1 series; now that would be a kick ass commuter car.
 

pwp

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F18Guy said:
So why is there such a difference between diesel and regular unleaded? This morning I saw $3.21 for diesel and $2.82 for reg unl.

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Ja whats up with that, I fueled up my diesel Sprinter over the weekend $3.49 :eek:

Isn't diesel the one thats cheaper to refine than gas ???
 

MarkP

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pwp said:
Ja whats up with that, I fueled up my diesel Sprinter over the weekend $3.49 :eek:

Isn't diesel the one thats cheaper to refine than gas ???

Diesel Fuel Prices Prices: What Consumers Should Know
EIA


With the Fed fighting deflation (credit/debt/mortgage/subprime) with liquidity (free money) the dollar has dropped significantly. Some of the predictions in the above data are off because oil is $90+ per barrel.
 

David Despain

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pwp said:
Ja whats up with that, I fueled up my diesel Sprinter over the weekend $3.49 :eek:

Isn't diesel the one thats cheaper to refine than gas ???


its because of the refining processes required to produce the ultralowsulphordiesel. it costs more to make it now. plus, the refinery capacity to produced the new usld is not as big as it was for the old low sulphor diesel. so supply and demand dictates the price go up. thats just one reason price is so high but it is a major reason.
 

jwest

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F18Guy said:
So why is there such a difference between diesel and regular unleaded? This morning I saw $3.21 for diesel and $2.82 for reg unl.

For my current 70 mile round trip commute; I have looked at the Camry Hybrid and read about the 2008 Jetta Diesel. Not sure which is the best way to go...either way is better than feeding the pig...LOL

I talked to Scott (motorrad11) this morning and he showed me the new Bimmer 1 series; now that would be a kick ass commuter car.
By using biodiesel, even authorized by VW, the Jetta tdi will allow you to really curb your emissions and promote US production of biodiesel. There are some amazing things coming in the next several years - such as biodiesel from algea in a far more efficient way than even traditional crops.

Plus, wouldn't the jetta be more fun to drive? ;)
 
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