Hi-lift on rear bumper

[aliastel]

Here is a pic of my Hi-lift installed on the stock rear bumper. I don't have a roof rack or strong front brush guard yet, so I mounted it here with 4xRAC mounts. It has worked well here so far, but it was a PITA to get to the nuts on the back of the bumper when I mounted it. It would be easier, maybe, to just remove the bumper and reinstall it after adding the mounts. I flip it up the other way when off-road to give a little more departure clearance. However, given the stock hitch, it doesn't decrease departure in most circumstances. I may move it to the top of the brush guard, when I install the ARB I have planned.

 

[Mongo]

hmmm...let's see how you like it after the first winter...

 

[aliastel]

hmmm...let's see how you like it after the first winter...

Yes. It's definitely going to get hit by more crud there than on the front, or up top. Best off inside, but it's a 60 inch, and too long to get in there unless I fold the seat. I have a stock brush guard on front, but it is kind of flimsy for mounting the Hi-lift, IMO. Any other ideas of where to put it without a roof rack, or good front brush guard? I'm all ears . . .

 

[fishEH]

Mount it vertically on the spare tire?

The Chicago Land Rover Club is going to the Cliff's Offroad in Marseilles, IL next Saturday. You should come out if you can.

 

[aliastel]

Mount it vertically on the spare tire?

The Chicago Land Rover Club is going to the Cliff's Offroad in Marseilles, IL next Saturday. You should come out if you can.

I don't really like the extra weight on the door. I'm not sure this will help much with the crud either. This type of body design sucks road spray up the back of the vehicle. I have thought of mounting it cross-ways on the factory roof rails, but I don't know if I'd like the look of that.

 

[Mongo]

Yes. It's definitely going to get hit by more crud there than on the front, or up top. Best off inside, but it's a 60 inch, and too long to get in there unless I fold the seat. I have a stock brush guard on front, but it is kind of flimsy for mounting the Hi-lift, IMO. Any other ideas of where to put it without a roof rack, or good front brush guard? I'm all ears . . .

in the garage...without aftermarket bumpers and sliders, it's 100% useless...

 

[aliastel]

in the garage...without aftermarket bumpers and sliders, it's 100% useless...

I use it with a jack-mate to lift right off the wheel. I carry a good jack stand to let the axle rest on if/when I need to change a tire. I also carry it for the winch function, slow and cumbrous, but works better than nothing.

In everyday use on the road, I use the bottle jack.

 

[Mongo]

you really don't get it do you...you have NO SAFE WAY OF USING IT!!!! no sliders, bumpers and the jack mate, well that's open for debate


POSUER...that's what it screams

 

[aliastel]

. . . jack mate, well that's open for debate

OK. Let's open a debate then. I'd like to get some feedback from people who have used it.

 

[aliastel]

POSUER...that's what it screams

I guess you're right. I am the only serious off-roader who carries a Hi-Lift on their bumper. If anything, my mostly stock truck needs it more than a modded one, though.

 

[Mongo]

I have one...never used it and never have been in a situation where I needed it. In a situation where a I need to lift the truck to obtain better traction, as a last resort to either stacking, winching or getting pulled out, I've used a hi-lift on the slider and drove off it...

it's obvious you don't have a lot of recovery experience

 

[aliastel]

I have one...never used it and never have been in a situation where I needed it. In a situation where a I need to lift the truck to obtain better traction, as a last resort to either stacking, winching or getting pulled out, I've used a hi-lift on the slider and drove off it...

it's obvious you don't have a lot of recovery experience

I haven't had to recover my Disco yet, but in my old CJ5, I got in a really bad situation once, and didn't have a winch. The Hi-Lift helped just enough to get me out of there. That's why I feel it is useful.

 

[Mongo]

yep, and that's about all it's useful for....not changing tires like you posted over on expo

 

[Roach]

While the high lift can come in handy, ( lifted an FJ off of a rock @ McCaslin last year), it is one of those things that someone in the group probably has, it will be trashed in one winter in IL riding outside like that, as was pointed out without sliders or steel bumpers no safe way to actually use it, and the 100 bucks would have been better spent saving towards sliders, diff guards, etc.

 

[stu454]

Why did you buy a 60" jack when your tires are not even 32" tall?

Re: the winter. That jack will be a rusted piece of scrap after the IL DOT salt has a few rounds with it.

It looks like 'Oooh, I got a Hi Lift! Look at how cool I am!!'

Don't feel bad; I've done a lot of dumb poseur shit too. It's part of the learning curve. It's not personal. We really are trying to help you when we call you out on shit like that.

 

[benlittle]

Didn't we already go through this on Expo, aka, lame site with lame moderators, and didn't you already shrug off advice???

Tell you what, go ask RoverTym why they don't make a rear bumper mount for their bumper. Go ask ANY bumper builder why they don't sell a bumper with a hi lift mounted like you have it.

There is a reason. It's a shitty location. It's going to get clogged full of shit and rust before you have time to use it.

Oh yea, and suppose you take the advice of that douche on Expo and carry lube, brake cleaner and rags with you. Do you you REALLY want to break out the break cleaner, lube and rags to clean this off IF/ when you need it??

Jesus, take some advice and move on.

 

[aliastel]

Why did you buy a 60" jack when your tires are not even 32" tall?

Re: the winter. That jack will be a rusted piece of scrap after the IL DOT salt has a few rounds with it.

It looks like 'Oooh, I got a Hi Lift! Look at how cool I am!!'

Don't feel bad; I've done a lot of dumb poseur shit too. It's part of the learning curve. It's not personal. We really are trying to help you when we call you out on shit like that.

Putting the OME 3 inch lift and 32's on in a couple of weeks. I'm building it up with the end specs and use in mind, so while I may be close to stock now, I'm prepared for the future. Another reason for the 60 inch, I also don't have a winch at present so have the winching capabilities of the jack in mind as well, and the 60 inch works better for this if I need it. I don't need jacking points with the Lift-mate. For the winter, I am going to take it off unless I go wheeling. Another suggestion I had was to take the moving parts of the jack off and store them in the vehicle while keeping the bar on as is with some sort of sleeve to protect it from the elements.

On the poseur thing, yeah, everything on a 4x4 is poseur if you don't off-road and use it. Hell, most people buy a 4x4 to be poseur, and never off-road it. If that's the only good place I have to carry it right now, why should I give a damn about what people think from an image standpoint?

 

[aliastel]

Didn't we already go through this on Expo, aka, lame site with lame moderators, and didn't you already shrug off advice???

Tell you what, go ask RoverTym why they don't make a rear bumper mount for their bumper. Go ask ANY bumper builder why they don't sell a bumper with a hi lift mounted like you have it.

There is a reason. It's a shitty location. It's going to get clogged full of shit and rust before you have time to use it.

Oh yea, and suppose you take the advice of that douche on Expo and carry lube, brake cleaner and rags with you. Do you you REALLY want to break out the break cleaner, lube and rags to clean this off IF/ when you need it??

Jesus, take some advice and move on.

The fact that I'm collecting info to make my own decision is nothing personal against you or anyone else, trust me.

 

[leeawalden]

crikey thats a brand spankin new hi lift.

Honestly I have never used mine on the rover. I have some coleman racing brackets for the rack but I found myself asking why the hell do I have that on there. I drive the car everyday and it's just helping me suck down more gas than I already do.

I use it all the time for changing tractor tires, and have used it to jack up the corner of the barn to put a stone under there, but never on my car. I have used it to get my fourwheeler unstuck and have used it ONCE to get a friends stock jeep unstuck (which we ended up putting 4 guys behind it and pushing it out.) I don't put my self in a situation where I might get stuck if I'm by myself...I get out and walk to where I gotta go and walk back to the car. Its a nice piece of equipment, but its not the ideal piece of RECOVERY equipment. IMO just leave it at home until you know you're going offroad. Nine times out of ten you will find an easier way than using the hi lift.

 

[aliastel]

yep, and that's about all it's useful for....not changing tires like you posted over on expo

What do you use, or would you use for changing tires off road? Do you carry a floor jack with you?