So after talking to Ho last night (whom by the way, is a VERY helpful guy) I went ahead with the 3 inch lift for my disco 2, but I am still worried about the rear shocks and the chance of breaking them during mild-offroading. How many people running this setup have had any problems? Thanks.
How often do you top out your 3" OME setup
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Joshua:
I had the OME 3" on my D2 for a while and I did have the topping out issue quite a bit in the rear, in situations that just seemed like it shouldn't have. Maybe ACE had something to do with it, but it used top out on speed bumps. I wasn't so worried about the shocks breaking because of OME reputation, my concern was more to the shock mounts.
I did go out in the woods with this setup and they did top out quite a bit, but I never had a problem, but I removed the OME lift after only about 3 months because it was just driving me nuts.
For mild off road use, as long as you don't drive like your in the Baja, you'll probably be just fine.
HTH,
Mike
I had the OME 3" on my D2 for a while and I did have the topping out issue quite a bit in the rear, in situations that just seemed like it shouldn't have. Maybe ACE had something to do with it, but it used top out on speed bumps. I wasn't so worried about the shocks breaking because of OME reputation, my concern was more to the shock mounts.
I did go out in the woods with this setup and they did top out quite a bit, but I never had a problem, but I removed the OME lift after only about 3 months because it was just driving me nuts.
For mild off road use, as long as you don't drive like your in the Baja, you'll probably be just fine.
HTH,
Mike
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billmallin
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RedneckRover said:
I have the OME 3" on my rig and wheel the piss out of it.
I did have a shock seal blow once... on the rear... but I really think it was an issue of a poor seal from the factory. OME sent me a new one free of charge and I sent them the old one back.
"mild-offroading"... You'll be fine. Shit, you'll be fine "severe-offroading"... and if something breaks, OME will replace it for 2 years. Besides, it'll give you something to work on.
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billmallin
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My '03 DII will top out over speed bumps if I hit them too fast, and when wheeling. It's not bad though. If I have any weight in the back it pretty much stops. I haven't had any problems with the shocks or the mounts... yeah, I know... the truck is only two years old.
What do want to be able to do with your truck? Go wheeling with extra clearance and pay the price of slowing down for speed bumps... or loose a little lift and drive like you're racing the Baja 1000? It's not a right or wrong question, just one of driving style.
PS Have they hauled the ship wrecks away yet?
What do want to be able to do with your truck? Go wheeling with extra clearance and pay the price of slowing down for speed bumps... or loose a little lift and drive like you're racing the Baja 1000? It's not a right or wrong question, just one of driving style.
PS Have they hauled the ship wrecks away yet?
I have been running the 3" set-up on the Pig for a year now. No problems at all. I did remove the rear roto flex and replaced it with a GBR shaft for vibe issues.
maybe this goes without saying but are you using the EE or Scorpion lowered shock mounts?
I assume you are, otherwise the answer is simple.
That said, you can most definitely kill an OME shock it just might not be from topping out. Funny that someone mentioned Baja. Baja doesn't necessarily mean jumping your truck, but it does mean wash board roads at 35mph or so. With all the weight on my truck the regular OME shocks gave up the ghost in less than a year. Started leaking South of the Border. Shocks were toast. They were also pretty well sand blasted from the higher speed and looked awful. Despite that John did his best to get OME to take them back but they said "no way". They claimed "abuse". That seemed a little lame to me. If OME specs that shock for that vehicle, I don't care how heavy you load it, if it breaks it wasn't up to the task. Now that didn't sour me on OME, it just convinced me that I needed the added dampening capacity of the LTRs. I have been very pleased with those. For me, adjustability wasn't a factor I just needed the durability. Most people in my neck of the woods would have run something extremely large like a King Shock. Too big in my book and waaaaaaaaaaaaay too prerunner. I chose OME over Fox and Bilstein because I still think the LTR is a really good product and they make one that fits without an adapter that could become a weak link.
How's that for an answer to a question that nobody asked?
I assume you are, otherwise the answer is simple.
That said, you can most definitely kill an OME shock it just might not be from topping out. Funny that someone mentioned Baja. Baja doesn't necessarily mean jumping your truck, but it does mean wash board roads at 35mph or so. With all the weight on my truck the regular OME shocks gave up the ghost in less than a year. Started leaking South of the Border. Shocks were toast. They were also pretty well sand blasted from the higher speed and looked awful. Despite that John did his best to get OME to take them back but they said "no way". They claimed "abuse". That seemed a little lame to me. If OME specs that shock for that vehicle, I don't care how heavy you load it, if it breaks it wasn't up to the task. Now that didn't sour me on OME, it just convinced me that I needed the added dampening capacity of the LTRs. I have been very pleased with those. For me, adjustability wasn't a factor I just needed the durability. Most people in my neck of the woods would have run something extremely large like a King Shock. Too big in my book and waaaaaaaaaaaaay too prerunner. I chose OME over Fox and Bilstein because I still think the LTR is a really good product and they make one that fits without an adapter that could become a weak link.
How's that for an answer to a question that nobody asked?
JSQ said:
But your shocks failed while loaded. While driving on the wash boards were the shocks topping out? It sounds like a different issue than than raised in the original question... but as I am running the OME shocks, it is interesting none the less. How old were the shocks?
JSQ said:
Answer isnt that simple actually. Ho says that the lowered shock mount does not work on the D2
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billmallin
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What is all this topping out talk and lowered shock mounts?
I've been running a 3" OME lift with OME shocks forever. Most of the guys in our club do too. No one... including me... has ever had any of the problems mentioned here. I literally took out the old shocks and springs and put in the new set up. Done. And, not one single problem... aside from one blown shock as mentioned above.
I'm confused.
I've been running a 3" OME lift with OME shocks forever. Most of the guys in our club do too. No one... including me... has ever had any of the problems mentioned here. I literally took out the old shocks and springs and put in the new set up. Done. And, not one single problem... aside from one blown shock as mentioned above.
I'm confused.
billmallin said:
I think that the idea would be (at least on D1) that if you have the lowered mount then then you don't have as much up travel, thus the possibility for topping out. At least that is what I gather.
I ran the lowered mount all summer without issue. I suspect that if you drive hard/fast through something that really stuffs the wheel that you could top out bad, but I don't drive like that.
I think we need to make sure we know the difference between "topping out" and "bottoming out".
D2s suck.
no lowered shock mount = not nearly as cool as maximum mojo d1 love.
fat ass.
bri,
i had the shocks for about 9 months or so.
i knew this might not answer your question, hence, my last comment.
D2s suck.
no lowered shock mount = not nearly as cool as maximum mojo d1 love.
fat ass.
bri,
i had the shocks for about 9 months or so.
i knew this might not answer your question, hence, my last comment.
bri, you got it backwards buddy. Topping out is when the shock extends to full travel. There is a very audible "clunk", you cannot miss it. It is the result of the shock stopping the downward drop. Generally, this is not considered to be damaging to the shock.
Bottoming out is when the shock is stuffed and the shock stops the upward travel. This is a big no-no and has the potential badly damage or destroy the shock (valve).
Bill, not sure why none of you guys ever top out, here was my setup, I could very easily top my rears on speed bumps, speed humps and especially on the trail:
F: OME 751, OME 107 (never topped the fronts)
R: OME 762 with 1" spacer, OME 108
FWIW, I'm generally not a fast driver on the trail but I don't putz around either. My guess is that a D2 with ACE would allow more drop than a D2 with sways in the rear.
Bottoming out is when the shock is stuffed and the shock stops the upward travel. This is a big no-no and has the potential badly damage or destroy the shock (valve).
Bill, not sure why none of you guys ever top out, here was my setup, I could very easily top my rears on speed bumps, speed humps and especially on the trail:
F: OME 751, OME 107 (never topped the fronts)
R: OME 762 with 1" spacer, OME 108
FWIW, I'm generally not a fast driver on the trail but I don't putz around either. My guess is that a D2 with ACE would allow more drop than a D2 with sways in the rear.
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billmallin
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noee.... same set up as you.
Maybe I am old and drive slower... or perhaps the whining from my transfer case drowns out the noise from the shocks? Or maybe my passengers yelling, "Holy shit! You're going to go down THAT?" Might also be the noise from my dog snoring drowning it out... who knows...
Maybe I am old and drive slower... or perhaps the whining from my transfer case drowns out the noise from the shocks? Or maybe my passengers yelling, "Holy shit! You're going to go down THAT?" Might also be the noise from my dog snoring drowning it out... who knows...
Well then, those terms are pretty much counter intuitive.
I fully extend the shocks all the time, since I hang wheels in the air quite often. If you do it hard, you will see the end of you shock fly off. Can happen more with cones if you are not a careful driver. When I fully extend the shock, I do so under control and this NEVER happens over a speed bump, thank god. In fact I have a hard time even thinking about how a shock would fully extend on road at all.
Bottoming out? Likely have done it under full compression, but never checked and I have never done it hard or heard any thing bad. I would also think that it would only matter if you do this uncontrolled and hard, since the shocks are fully compressed when delivered. Whenever a wheel stuffs, I am very careful and have never damaged a shock.
Brian
I fully extend the shocks all the time, since I hang wheels in the air quite often. If you do it hard, you will see the end of you shock fly off. Can happen more with cones if you are not a careful driver. When I fully extend the shock, I do so under control and this NEVER happens over a speed bump, thank god. In fact I have a hard time even thinking about how a shock would fully extend on road at all.
Bottoming out? Likely have done it under full compression, but never checked and I have never done it hard or heard any thing bad. I would also think that it would only matter if you do this uncontrolled and hard, since the shocks are fully compressed when delivered. Whenever a wheel stuffs, I am very careful and have never damaged a shock.
Brian
Joshua,
Getting back to your original question....you will be fine. Install what you ordered and go have fun.
http://www.pbase.com/v22guy/image/29930073
Paul
Getting back to your original question....you will be fine. Install what you ordered and go have fun.
http://www.pbase.com/v22guy/image/29930073
Paul
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Runningmule
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undefinedMaybe the common link with the problems being experienced is sway bar removal. I have a 2000 D2 with EE 1" spacers OME 762's and am very unhappy (Rear sways removed). Overextending the shock (which is precisely what happens) over speed bumps and the mildest, slow going off road situations, is ridiculous. Stay with the OME set-up as it was intended and you'll never have a problem. I'm reverting back to no spacers in rear, just not a good mod for D2. Go with Heavy Duty springs front and rear as EE prescribes and you'll be happy. It's the most bullet proof set-up on the market...Just lacks the Looks of the 3" lift (which is definitely sweet). Why can't we have our cake and eat it too? Becuase we bought D2's.