Hummer is toast!

[garrett]

The quality was high, the vehicles were good, if not great off pavement.

What brought you to that conclusion? There was a dealer event in CT a few years back with about 10 H2s and only a few left under their own power. From what I remember him telling me it was steering components on all or most of them.

There's a GOOD reason they went under. Land Rover might not be far behind.

 

[MUSKYMAN]

http://www.gmhummer.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/633/cat/506/limit/recent

Kinda like the fabled Scout III

it was going to have a kevlar body a dana 300 TC and a rear dana 60.

shoulda woulda coulda but

thats always the story of a failed automaker..."but look what was on the drawing board"

 

[Ballah06]

It would definitely be nice to have one product made by the auto manufacturer that equally satisfied the needs of multiple market segments. However, as cool as some vehicles may appear on the drawing board, I simply do not think that the target market for those is big enough to make it worthwhile to produce. Hence the good ideas that appeal to most of us on forums like this end up crashing and burning because of the lack of demand as a whole.
Not having followed the Hummer marketing strategy, what was it? Who exactly were they trying to target with their vehicles? Was there a clearly defined market or was it just lets make em and see how many soccer moms buy them?

 

[landrovered]

The only good thing that a hummer ever did was this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eyBmElkqY

 

[brianhoberg]

Sorry, but if I couldn't afford the full-sized REAL hummer, HMV, I wouldn't buy the mall-crawler version of it.

I've seen an H2 do alright on offroading, but I've seen 20 times more H2's with a douche bag in the drivers seat that killed the brand.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[knewsom]

Yeah, I never much cared for Hummers. Too big, too expensive, too poorly made, too showy, basically nothing new, etc, etc, etc. The thing about Hummers is that they kinda represent the worst of America. While I'm not sorry to see them go, I'm sure there will be some other opulent decadent soccer-mobile that will take its place.

 

[Ballah06]

http://www.addictinggames.com/offroadmadness.html

 

[kennith]

What brought you to that conclusion? There was a dealer event in CT a few years back with about 10 H2s and only a few left under their own power. From what I remember him telling me it was steering components on all or most of them.

There's a GOOD reason they went under. Land Rover might not be far behind.

What I meant was that the overall vehicle quality was higher than their other offerings, and that they were good vehicles overall. I did not mean to suggest that they were even remotely good trail vehicles. The vehicles they were based on wouldn't perform much better. GM was trying harder with the Hummer brand, like they are trying harder with Cadillac nowadays. The overall package was better than anything they've bothered with before.

They had their share of issues, but I think it was a step forward for GM to attempt something interesting for a change. They put a darned good effort in. That's my point. Does anyone mean to suggest that their SUV lineup was more interesting without the Hummer brand at it's helm?

Call me crazy, but I'd take an H3 over a Trailblazer any day of the week. The H3 is simply far more interesting. I had grown more than tired of the same old crap from GM.

They were a bit falsely advertised, sure, but I'd rather have one of those than the normal nonsense they have been peddling for years. They were trying something more than a new badge. It wasn't perfect, but it was a step forward, because they sure as hell weren't trying anything else.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[BaldEagle]

i almost bought an H2. but instead i just cut to the chase and got a tatoo on my forehead saying "i need attention"

 

[roverMc]

i almost bought an H2. but instead i just cut to the chase and got a tatoo on my forehead saying "i need attention"

At least it wasn't on your ass! :rofl:

 

[pan2sa]

I've seen an H2 do alright on offroading, but I've seen 20 times more H2's with a douche bag in the drivers seat that killed the brand.

Aint that the truth brother.. It's like a right of passage before one can graduate into full douche-hood. Thou must buy a Hummer that is all blinged out with chrome shit everywhere. I think they must think that it makes them look more rugged and appealing, everyone I know just laughs and points...

Oh and to get your MBA you gotta buy a brand new Range Rover and then ruin it by blinging the shit out of it.

 

[Ballah06]

Aint that the truth brother.. It's like a right of passage before one can graduate into full douche-hood. Thou must buy a Hummer that is all blinged out with chrome shit everywhere. I think they must think that it makes them look more rugged and appealing, everyone I know just laughs and points...

Oh and to get your MBA you gotta buy a brand new Range Rover and then ruin it by blinging the shit out of it.

x2 on the Hummer. But with the Range Rover, do people buy a 70-100k vehicle to really go offroad or anywhere close to? I agree that some look fugly all blinged out, but I think the intentions are different from the start. Hence, a new one with a decent set of rims, doesnt look half as bad. But then again, its a different vehicle all together in my opinion.

 

[knewsom]

well, there's offroading and there's offroading. A dirt road or gravel road to most of those types would be "offroad". That or wet grass. Anything involving rocks or mud deeper than 2 inches would probably scare them right off.

 

[mjbrox]

well, there's offroading and there's offroading. A dirt road or gravel road to most of those types would be "offroad". That or wet grass. Anything involving rocks or mud deeper than 2 inches would probably scare them right off.

I have an Acura MDX and I got it insted of a wagon because I kayak and MTBike. I have never tried to go someplace just to take it off road, but I want a little bit of clearance just in case.

Believe me, if some one was going to run into a situation where they "needed" a true off road truck for recreation, it would be me and it just has not happened.

The 4WD aspect of the Disco is purely recreation for me.

In fact I will probibly still use the MDX for most family camping trips since it is much more comfortable on the highway

 

[p m]

That looks about as cool as the Isuzu Vehicross.

as is in "Oh shit, we've got two feet below the headlights to cover up with something...?"

 

[knewsom]

mj, I totally hear you on the "not really necessary" part of 4wd... I used to take my old VW bus EVERYWHERE, even down some really steep and rough trails, and the only time I ever got it stuck was in sand. That thing was a beast.

4 wheelin' IS fun, but I've actually NEEDED 4x4 before... up in Humboldt, I was helping a dude clear some land to build a house on - it was about a mile up a very steep hill to the building site, and there was no road at all until he started clearing. Didn't have the disco at the time, sadly, just an old Bronco, but that thing was VERY capable. We'd spend awhile filling the back of that truck and an old Yota with bucked up firewood, reverse down the cut trail a bit and stack it. That was some grueling hard manual labor, but that shit makes you feel like a MAN (and so does a 1lb burger with two pints of beer for lunch - awesome). NO 2WD vehicle could've made it up that hill, even my buddy's oldschool Subaru with a locking center diff and low range had a hard time.