Is "unfathomable" the right word here?
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And if the officer hadn't responded to an actual break in in progress it surely would have been because it was a black neighborhood right? I could see if he was approaced at gunpoint and roughed up where some outrage could have been appropriate, and he should not have been arrested (based on his version of events) but the whole thing could have been avoided if he had simply shown some ID, especially after the officer told him why he was there.
/asshattery all around on this one
/asshattery all around on this one
He is mostly right. If a police officer comes to your home and asks you to step outside you are under no obligation to do so. After that, he fucked up. Instead of identifying himself as "a black man in America", he should have identified himself as the home owner.
Police have no right to yank you out of your home, but if he's there to investigate a potential issue and you pull an attitude, you're on your own.
A white man wouldn't have had the charges dropped by the police, it would have been thrown out of court.
Police have no right to yank you out of your home, but if he's there to investigate a potential issue and you pull an attitude, you're on your own.
A white man wouldn't have had the charges dropped by the police, it would have been thrown out of court.
He pulled the race card right away. And having an attitude with a cop is never a good idea. If he would have complied, there would not have been a scene or an arrest. Maybe, just maybe there was someone else sneaking around that the caller saw. Maybe letting the cop see your ID and identifying him as the home owner they would have further patroled the grounds and found someone who didn't belong there.
he played the race card at a bad time.
when cops are 'in progress' on anything, they mean damn business.
"Gates is the director of the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African-American Research at Harvard University."
you're telling me this guy who is the guru of black folk, can't get himself outta this one with a simple sentence. dave chapelle could have handled himself better. 'the man' likes to be talked to with some damn respect, it's gate's own fault for getting feisty with the cop.
when cops are 'in progress' on anything, they mean damn business.
"Gates is the director of the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African-American Research at Harvard University."
you're telling me this guy who is the guru of black folk, can't get himself outta this one with a simple sentence. dave chapelle could have handled himself better. 'the man' likes to be talked to with some damn respect, it's gate's own fault for getting feisty with the cop.
Wow, if a potential break in was reported here, the officer wouldn't knock on the door with gun in holster...
IMO, he was lucky the officer cared enough to check his residence. He should have just shut up and showed ID
IMO, he was lucky the officer cared enough to check his residence. He should have just shut up and showed ID
If you ask an officer for his badge number, he is obligated to give it to you, regardless of circumstances. Checks and balances. This is really, REALLY important.
ok...now that I have calmed down I'll attempt to reply. An officer responded to his address, after another citizen reported a break in, and tried to make contact with someone at the residence. Seems right to me. The officer makes contact with this guy and tells him what's going on and asks for ID. Then the guy refuses to show it to him. What the FUCK did that guy think was going to happen? Then he procedes to throw the race card in and get an attitude. Really? This happens all the time. I don't care if I just chased someone across my county at 110mph in a stolen car while he was throwing bags of cocaine out the window then crashes the car he will still bitch at me all the way to the jail on how the only reason he's under arrest is because he's black. I'm sure he got more of an attitude than he's letting on or maybe he didn't even realize how disorderly he got. An officer isn't going to arrest someone just because he's black. It's just not going to happen. It probably would have been dismissed in court. I don't have a problem with that, but the charges should not have been dropped by the police department. That just makes them look like idiots. The woman that was interviewed said that prominent white men don't get arrested in there own homes. Well I can say that they do. I've arrested whites, blacks, hispanics, and just about every other race in their own living rooms.
The bottom line is that the officer was there to investigate a complaint, that's our job, so why not just help him to figure out that you aren't breaking into your own home. simple as that. It seems to me that Gates was the one looking for trouble.
The bottom line is that the officer was there to investigate a complaint, that's our job, so why not just help him to figure out that you aren't breaking into your own home. simple as that. It seems to me that Gates was the one looking for trouble.
knewsom said:
It depends on the timing of such request. If someone asks me in the middle of my investigation i'm not going to give it them. When I'm done they can have all the information they want.
This is insane. I would have given the officer my ID to prove I lived there, then thanked him for checking on my house. All this crap that happened is turning a simple situation into a clusterfuck.
And yeah, the dude shoulda just shown his ID. The officer would've asked that of anyone who answered the door.
...though the fact that the old man was using a cane and wearing glasses should've been a clue that he wasn't a burglar.
...though the fact that the old man was using a cane and wearing glasses should've been a clue that he wasn't a burglar.
knewsom said:
LOL I field officer complaints as part of my job. I can't recall one person ever giving me the officers badge number. It's always their name or when and where they had contact.
varova87 said:
Whatever! Why didn't Obama comment on jrose saving all those peoples live in Boise or all the other heroic acts done everyday all over this country?