John Boehner

[knewsom]

1: How much do you know about this man or his life story to be posting such bullshit?

2: Dems and the president know how the American people feel after November. Something tells me you'll be surprised on just how much bipartisanship there is.

3: Clinton cried.

Clinton was extremely dangerous, and powerful. We're lucky he was smart and fairly magnanimous.

I feel your pain. Change. Hope. <--- All very rational, logical arguments. Not one of those slogans had anything to do with feelings or emotion. Hope is a logical governance policy for both foreign and domestic situations.

So you want someone pragmatic and cold like Pelosi. Right?

Rational, like Obama? The new governor of California is quite rational. And anything that is good for the children is automatically rational and logical.

I don't know anything about this guy, except that I get embarrassed when I try to pronounce his name.

Campaign slogans and operating parameters are vastly different, please tell me you get this. EVERY politician uses peoples' emotional responses to get elected. That doesn't mean they should use emotional responses to formulate policy. Some do, some do not. Obama and Jerry Brown are FAR more pragmatic than you give them credit for.

I don't know much about Boehner either, but I'm definitely in the camp of those that think he changed the way his name is said just for politics.

 

[p m]

Campaign slogans and operating parameters are vastly different, please tell me you get this. EVERY politician uses peoples' emotional responses to get elected.

translate: EVERY politician lies through his/her teeth, for his/her entire political life.

That doesn't mean they should use emotional responses to formulate policy. Some do, some do not. Obama and Jerry Brown are FAR more pragmatic than you give them credit for.

and that sounds to me like a justification for these lies.

 

[jim-00-4.6]

Anyone ever heard of Matt Taibbi?

check this:
The Crying Shame of John Boehner

 

[knewsom]

translate: EVERY politician lies through his/her teeth, for his/her entire political life.

and that sounds to me like a justification for these lies.

Not passing judgement on it one way or the other, that was simply a statement of fact.

 

[p m]

Anyone ever heard of Matt Taibbi?

check this:
The Crying Shame of John Boehner

Some good writing -
"This was a fine way to be during the 2000s, back when America was still unfucked enough to enjoy a phony real estate boom and launch recreational wars of conquest in the Middle East"
Just lovely.

 

[jhmover]

Here's my favorite campaign slogan of all time from the 1972 election. "Why change Dicks in the middle of a screw, vote for Nixon in '72" I still have the business card with that on it....lol

 

[brian4d]

I agree that 95% of politicians are corrupt no doubt however I think a lot here have pined John Boehner wrong. Look at the upbringing of many do nothing presidents and politicians, they've had everything handed to them on a silver platter. How on earth are politicians supposed to represent their constituents when they don't even understand how most Americans live? You don't have to think long to start naming politicians that have got where they were becuase of their last name.

Bush
Kennedy
Kerry

Romney

to name a very few.

John Boehner on the other hand has a (what seems like) different start in life.

Boehner was born in Reading, Ohio, the son of Mary Anne (née Hall) and Earl Henry Boehner, the second of twelve children in a family of German and Irish descent. He grew up in modest circumstances, having shared one bathroom with his eleven siblings in a two-bedroom house in Cincinnati. His parents slept on a pull-out couch. He started working at his family's bar at age 8, a business founded by their grandfather Andy Boehner in 1938. He has lived in Southwest Ohio his entire life. All but two of his siblings still live within a few miles of each other, two are unemployed and most of the others have blue-collar jobs.

Boehner attended Cincinnati's Moeller High School and was a linebacker on the school's football team, where he was coached by future Notre Dame coach Gerry Faust. Graduating from Moeller in 1968, when U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War was at its peak, Boehner enlisted in the United States Navy but was honorably discharged after eight weeks because of a bad back. He earned his bachelor's degree in business from Xavier University in Cincinnati in 1977, becoming the first person in his family to attend college, taking seven years as he held several jobs to pay for his education.

Shortly after his graduation in 1977, Boehner accepted a position with Nucite Sales, a small sales business in the packaging and plastics industry. He was steadily promoted and eventually became president of the firm, resigning in 1990 when he was elected to Congress.

-Wikipedia



I may be proved wrong but I believe the man is going to do what he says for the sake of the country that gave him opportunity.

 

[Two Cold Soakers]

I'm no fan, but Slick Willie was far from "old rich".
Might want to edit the list.

OTOH, once he sold his soul at the public trough, it's was a whole new game.

 

[garrett]

So because he had a blue collar upbringing that makes him a better politician?

He grew up in Ohio and had to share a bathroom with his siblings. Wow. That's amazing. Wonderful story. Maybe I need to shed a tear.

Like that makes him "immune" to being lumped in with most politicians?

 

[brian4d]

So because he had a blue collar upbringing that makes him a better politician?

Maybe not better, but at least has an understanding. Miss the bold?

 

[Mike_Rupp]

Garrett, I'm not sold on Boehner by any means. I generally distrust any politician, so when I evaluate them I try to sort them by who is less horrible. You have to admit, though, that the standard ruling class in this country has been a select group of Ivy league spolied brats. The whole point of bringing up his background is to show how unremarkable it is. He has a normal background.

Like I wrote earlier, I generally distrust politicians and Boehner is no different. We'll see how things turn out. If he can put the brakes on the spending in this country and reverse some of the horrors turned out of the Pelosi congresses, he will be a success.

 

[brian4d]

I'm no fan, but Slick Willie was far from "old rich".
Might want to edit the list.

OTOH, once he sold his soul at the public trough, it's was a whole new game.

I stand corrected.

 

[roverMc]

Honestly when I watched her handing the gavel to him on the news, I was hoping he would start beating that bitch about the head with it.

X2 That is one crazy bitch! I'm shocked that they didn't have her committed.

 

[knewsom]

If you really want to talk about a self-made man, look no farther than our President. He grew up in a single-parent household, and earned top-notch scholarships through exceptional hard work. He certainly knows what it's like for average Americans - does that mean you will view him in any other light?

 

[Mike_Rupp]

I view him as he is: a marxist.

 

[MarkP]

A more interesting line of discussion would be the academic background .....



Hoover - Stanford
Roosevelt - Harvard/Columbia
Truman - no degree
Eisenhower - West Point
Kennedy - Harvard
Johnson - SW Texas State
Nixon - Whittier/Duke
Ford - Michigan/Yale
Carter - Georgia Inst of Tech / Navy
Reagan - Eureka
GHW Bush - Yale
Clinton - Georgetown, Yale,
GW Bush - Yale & Harvard
Obama - Columbia & Harvard


Bold are Ivy League Schools. For 6 terms there has been little change in academic thinking.

 

[MarkP]

If you really want to talk about a self-made man, look no farther than our President. He grew up in a single-parent household, and earned top-notch scholarships through exceptional hard work. He certainly knows what it's like for average Americans - does that mean you will view him in any other light?

Obama's education reeks of a person who benefited from affirmative action.

Barack Obama?s GPA and College Records​

The perception of Obama as highly educated is manufactured. He is a product of a good-ole-boys network.

 

[knewsom]

Hoover - Stanford
Roosevelt - Harvard/Columbia
Truman - no degree
Eisenhower - West Point
Kennedy - Harvard
Johnson - SW Texas State
Nixon - Whittier/Duke
Ford - Michigan/Yale
Carter - Georgia Inst of Tech / Navy
Reagan - Eureka
GHW Bush - Yale
Clinton - Georgetown, Yale,
GW Bush - Yale & Harvard
Obama - Columbia & Harvard

Seriously, on this list, even if your accusations of affirmative action are correct (which, IIRC, never required anyone to do give preference to someone who was less qualified than anyone else, merely when other factors were equal, to select the minority applicant), who is more self-made than Obama?

I suppose you'd rather have a president who went to college here? :rofl:

Mike - I keep hearing accusations that Obama is a Marxist, and also that he's a corporate shill... those two really aren't compatible.

 

[brian4d]

never required anyone to do give preference to someone who was less qualified than anyone else, merely when other factors were equal, to select the minority applicant), who is more self-made than Obama?

Do you truly and honestly believe this is how the system works? That must be some thick wool....

 

[knewsom]

I believe that's actually how the law was written, and intended to work. As to whether or not it actually worked that way, I simply don't know. What I DO know is that most accusations to the contrary were politically and/or racially motivated, greatly harming their credibility.