Lifting the LR3

[jwest]

Wow, very interesting information here.
I hope to own a RRS Supercharged in the future for a daily/mild wheeler, and would love to see what is available in terms of more lift. Do all of these things just discussed work ont he RR aswell?

They could of course but you must know the RRS is already handicapped for this sort of use because it is lowered and has less air sprung articulation due to the fantastic road hugging "Dynamic-stability-control" that is not in the lr3 - thusly giving the lr3 the boat-like handling on the road.

You also will obvioulsy have worse approach and departure angles however your shorter wheel base won't hurt.

And, not to be judgemental but why would you spend the price tag on a RRS? Please tell me you've checked out other suv's in the same price bracket at least. the RRS is obviously not "for" offroading or even for having much interior cargo area or flexible use of what's there. why not test drive a loaded BMW X5 v8 (not for much more than snowy double tracks, etc) or a VW V10 TDi which does have air lift, way better gas mileage, much better engine, and is not really any smaller inside than the RRS but is quite a bit tougher I think (not to knock and RRS lovers...).

Or even better, to stay with Land Rover, get a full size RR HSE for not much more than the RRS-SC you mentioned. It's built better than the rrs, is more "usable" inside, is way cooler, doesn't drag it's scrotum in the dirt because it doesn't have the freekin diff and pipes built as low on an suv ever in history like the rrs/lr3. the year end discounts on RR hse is always thousands better than RRS-SC ever is. The full size RR has pretty dam good wheel travel and is also available with locking center AND rear diffs. I had a RRSC and loved it for what it was so maybe that would be the compromise for you. The SC RR has an inch or so less wheel travel and slightly less clearance but is still way more than the RRS-sc. The RR also has much more wheel-well room for an oversized set of tires whereas the RRS is rather tight in several different areas. You can put 18's on an hse RR but only down to 19's on the sc-RR.

Hell, even test drive an Audi Q7 or dude --- the G500 Benz. The G500 is totally cool by comparison - old school meets plush: live axles f/r, high end interior but rugged underneath like a Defender/Discovery layout.

and I don't want to hear any crap about the higher cost of a RRSC or the G500 because if one can "afford" or justify the RRS-SC, then it's pretty much all the same.

Hey, Luvs2getmuddy, I'm sorry if you didn't care to hear all that. Just compare your alternatives for the right reasons to you.

 

[Bene]

I thought they stopped making the G series.

 

[jwest]

I thought they stopped making the G series.

Maybe for a year or so, like some others do too but you can order an 08 now or find an 07 out there. first thing i'd do is pull the flimsy looking fender flares and change any chrome trim though

 

[bgsntth]

We tested an DSC equipped RRS SC during an LR experience drive. The anti-sway bars are actually decoupled when in Low-Range mud/ruts. I asked our instructor, while the rear was in serious articulation, why the end links had not snapped yet, and he filled me in. Nothing like pushing someone else's $80K truck to the limits.

 

[jwest]

yeah, I know, it's cool they de-couple but the rrs still has less range than the lr3 and is lower .6" lower overall.

 

[jwest]

I do prefer the tighter cockpit type driving in the rrs though.

 

[nwoods]

jwest, I'm not too sure about your points on the RRS. It's a bout a 1/4" less articulation to my (knowledge). Very true about the less convienant approach and departure angles though, and the fact that is no steel bumper options at all, and probably will never be. However, they are quite capable off road, as Adam Spiker has demonstrated quite thouroughly.

But the single biggest reason to chose the FFRR over the RRS has got to be the rear tailgate!

 

[jwest]

I went back to find the specs, not online very well but easily findable in the car brochure. Maybe I was more remembering the clearance reduction.
I think it's more that my opnion is the RRS is simply not worth it's sticker price compared to what other vehicles offer near the same price.

The drop tail gate portion of the FFRR is nicer than the lr3 and non existant rrs but the upper on the lr3 is better to me in it's shape functionally anyway.

Ever noticed how the lr3 upper - the seam between the big window and the upper body - when opened in rain actually funnels a line of drip water INTO the body of the car right beside where the drop gate cable goes inside. being in CA you may not be in rain too often but check it out.

it's one of my favourite features of the lr3. of course when you spend the $80-$90k on a FFRR, it's tail gate door drip line is upgraded to not drain into the car itself.

 

[umbertob]

1565 Euros / $2212 usd for the "electronic handling kit" and shipping quoted directly from the company.

I was in contact with them months ago about getting one but thought I'd wait to see if the price dropped.

I was NOT aware that only some place in PA can install it. WTF is up with that?! Does anyone here really know this for a fact?

Rover Special Vehicles handles the installation. They are not in PA - my mistake - they're in Rhode Island. And yes, apparently Mr. Moody of RSV in RI and Mr. Amadeus Matzker in Germany own the only two dedicated laptops designed to reset parameters and height sensors after their hardware is installed. The price for the part alone may very well be $2200 and change (although the US$ is currently freefalling versus the Euro, so it's probably more dough now), but by the time the "computer work" is done it's going to cost around 3Ks.

 

[bgsntth]

Was not inferring that the RRS had an advantage over the LR3, only that the DSC enhances both on and off-road performance. I think it is pretty slick, as long as its under warranty.

My wife is seriously "in-lust" with the RRS with the cherry-wood lux package.

 

[Gordo]

One thing is for sure that RRS is sweet. I saw some videos on Utube last night and it seems to go well. That being said Ive lost all respect for it after noticing that LRL sticker on it UGH. Gordo

 

[jwest]

I don't mean to sound so down on it. The idea crossed my mind after driving a SC version but it was just too small inside for my needs. The ivory interior is pretty sweet with the cherry wood.

 

[umbertob]

My wife is seriously "in-lust" with the RRS with the cherry-wood lux package.

Better hurry then... 2008s no longer include cherry as an interior finish. Walnut is now standard with lux pkg, Zebrano wood a no-cost option.