koby said:
...and that would be my second choice. If driven right offroad dual TT's can do some really cool stuff. Onroad they are almost as well mannered as an open diff.
Lockers Question
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...and that would be my second choice. If driven right offroad dual TT's can do some really cool stuff. Onroad they are almost as well mannered as an open diff.
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DiscoDino
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Seems you SO confused that you need ARBs to help you out...that way you can LEARN to make up your mind rather than have some metal parts with no brains think for you and action things on your behalf without you knowing.
JLS said:Sorry to confuse. I feel like a moron. No off roading in the winter time is what I meant to say.
You weren't confusing,
"I doubt I will do any off roading (IN THE WINTER) so..."
I read that as you won't be doing any off-roading in the winter.
antichrist said:
He editted it afterwards.. I read it after he editted it and was confused also, but then figured it out
Detroit/TT. simple easy, reliable, works great. Sure ARB's would be cool but i dont thinkg they are needed 99.99% of the time.
curtis said:
Curtis, you know the area better than me - I70 has a bunch of turns that are angled to aid high-speed driving. In a heavy snowstorm, when the traffic comes to a crawl, a locker in the rear may make your life miserable. Hell, even TT will, although to a much lesser extent.
So for me and my situation, would arb's be best for being able to have open diffs on snowpacked roads and HWY speeds. Will the ARB's be reliable? After reading the gernaded diff thread I am kinda cautious untill I hear some pluses for the ARB's.
JLS said:
when arbs are turned off, they are open diffs. So if you want "open diffs" then arb it is (I'm not learned on some of the newer cable or other locker options out there). Will arb be reliable? Depends on whether or not it's installed correctly.
I have yet to see a situation where open diff is better than TT. TT seems to be best behaved "traction" diff in snow I know. On-road or off. Detroit will give you even more traction but it does have those "side" benefits as well. I'd agree with those suggesting TT/DL or TT/TT combo.
I'd agree with those suggesting TT/DL or TT/TT combo.
marc olivares said:so by your own admission, ARB's are better, right?
(by at least .01%)
correct, i would rather have dual ARB's then a detroit/tt combo. but i do not think that they are worth it. 99.99% of the time Detroit/TT combo works great. once per trip i would like to have the front fully locked. if i did an around the world solo trip i will have the ARB's set up perfectly, but im not doing that yet. i do all the installs myself and the detroit and TT are much easier and mroe reliable for me.
I am thinking the DT/TT is what I am going to go with from more research and your guys opinions. Thanks guys. And sorry for screwing the beginning of this thread up too.
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Disco Mike
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Jeremy,
I have the Detroit/TT combination with CDL and used to live in Colorado, I know what it is like to drive on the 70 when it is bad, I used to have a place in FairPlay. If you were anywhere else I would say get the combination but you will do more uncontrolled crab walking with those two lockers, stay with single ARB in the rear if you really need one. Doesn't your CDL give you enough help, how about winter tire choices??
Mike J.
I have the Detroit/TT combination with CDL and used to live in Colorado, I know what it is like to drive on the 70 when it is bad, I used to have a place in FairPlay. If you were anywhere else I would say get the combination but you will do more uncontrolled crab walking with those two lockers, stay with single ARB in the rear if you really need one. Doesn't your CDL give you enough help, how about winter tire choices??
Mike J.
Disco Mike, the lockers are not for getting around in the snow, they would be for increasing my D1's performace in the summer off roading. What I wanted to know was what you basically said, would the DT cause ill effects while on hard packed snow and icey roads. I got the answers I was looking for and I think for what I want to do while off raoding the DT/TT is my choice. I will just have to live with the driving characteristics of this setup in the winter conditions.
p m said:
One thing that they are REALLY good at in the passes is keeping them clear. When it comes to Interstates, they will run appropriately spaced sets of three side-by-side plows straight up and down the mountain. If it is a heavy snowstorm all other roads will be damned in favor of keeping the "I" clear. This is not to say that he will never have issues, but we get more snow here than he does there and myself along with plenty of others run this setup with no problem. Most of the time it is actually a huge asset.
Det/TT for me I live in SC and have also lived in Denver but I have to admit East coast snow is not as slick as the snow in CO. Ask any snow skier. Don't know why I'm not a meterologist but its a fact. Plus I do like the clicking of the Detroit- It soothes my soul!
True in general; I just happened to go up to the local mountains twice in the middle of a heavy snowstorm, when the traffic up the 30-mile climb to the ski slopes turned into a bumper-to-bumper, stop-n-go affair. Same in Mammoth. With a locker (in the jeep) or TT (in the Disco) in the rear, simply taking off in the turn and keep the tail planted was a chore. I have also noticed extra tail-happiness of the Disco with a rear TT while driving in pouring rain on I70 South of Vail, and in barely-plowed Sequoia Natl. Park's mountain roads. Nothing special, but it may catch you unprepared.curtis said:
Sounds like I will have to take her easy this winter with the D/TT setup untill I get to know how they react to certian conditions.