Lr3 V6?
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I haven't had a bit of problem with my V6. I have pulled boats, trailers, and other things. I don't think it is underpowered. I think that you have a heavy foot and expectations aren't there for you. It feels stronger than my 2004 D2 HSE with a V8. I think it comes down to what you expect from it. I travel alot and I needed something that was going to be reliable,and it has exceeded my expectations. Thank you.
I agree, the Ford V6 has been rock solid and its way more powerful than the old Buick V8 lump the older Rovers have. I can drive circles around them, especially on long uphill grades.
I recently owned a +400 hp Corvette, and I've got thousands of miles in a V8 LR3, and whenever I get back into my V6 LR3, I do not find it lacking. I can feel the hp difference when passing on the freeway, but its a very torquey motor with superbly matched transmission gearing ratios. Better than the V8's gearing I think.
I recently owned a +400 hp Corvette, and I've got thousands of miles in a V8 LR3, and whenever I get back into my V6 LR3, I do not find it lacking. I can feel the hp difference when passing on the freeway, but its a very torquey motor with superbly matched transmission gearing ratios. Better than the V8's gearing I think.
maybe it's the weird gearing that make the lr3 funky and i assumed it would be the same in the v6 but just with even less power.
out of curiousity, what is the proportion of torque to power on the v6?
i do have some experience with three cross country trips logged in the past year - the v8 IS lacking torque for a $55,000 vehicle that weighs this much.
out of curiousity, what is the proportion of torque to power on the v6?
i do have some experience with three cross country trips logged in the past year - the v8 IS lacking torque for a $55,000 vehicle that weighs this much.
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jwest said:
I thought the power in the V6 was good. It's no rocket-ship, but it does have a little grunt. But that's only limited to a 2000 mile round trip to the mid-west and back towing a D1. http://sv4w.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/GA_Trip_390.jpg
I probably drive too fast and pass too often as well as got spoiled by the limitless pull in the V10 Touareg we have. .... I prefer the lr3 though as far as everything else!
out west when the limit is 75, you just want to really go and the v8 needs 5th and 4th to maintain speeds on even the slightest grades or stiff head wind.
out west when the limit is 75, you just want to really go and the v8 needs 5th and 4th to maintain speeds on even the slightest grades or stiff head wind.
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Maybe I have a high tolerance for flogging the beast, but I am more than please with the power and torque of the V8. On a recent trip to LA on the I-5, it held 6th gear over all of the rolling hills just North of Harris Ranch. Of course, I was going 80-90mph, so was pretty high-up in the rev range. Even going over the Grapevine, I was able to maintain 75mph with a lot still in reserve.
I agree that the transmission is very well matched to the V6. On my loaners, they accomodate themselves very well. I remember seeing that the torque curve on the V6 was really close to the V8's below 3000rpms, maybe even better-can't specifically remember. They obvisouly tuned it for the LR3, giving-up some high-end hp for low-down torque.
That said, I really wish I had your Toureg's V10 in my LR3, jwest. It is a fabulous engine, almost ridiculous in a mid-size SUV. Enjoy!
I agree that the transmission is very well matched to the V6. On my loaners, they accomodate themselves very well. I remember seeing that the torque curve on the V6 was really close to the V8's below 3000rpms, maybe even better-can't specifically remember. They obvisouly tuned it for the LR3, giving-up some high-end hp for low-down torque.
That said, I really wish I had your Toureg's V10 in my LR3, jwest. It is a fabulous engine, almost ridiculous in a mid-size SUV. Enjoy!
I feel like the LR3 is just boxxy. I really feel the wind resistance at 80-85 mph. Normal ruralroad speeds aren't that bad. When it is really windy, no speed matters. Although it seems this way with the LR3, the DII I have is way worse.
It's expectations too - in the 96 D1 I never felt like it didn't have enough because it wasn't all that sporty anyway - 75 was about as much as I ever bothered with.
Then, when I got the 04 D2 5 years later (bought with 40k in 06), it felt sporty by comparison and with OME medium springs, didn't sway too bad and held a corner great, at speed even in the NC mtns. Of course it was stock weight wise with a borla exhaust and the 1.5" lift and stock 18" michelin xpc tires. It honestly felt rather peppy but then again, I didn't "expect" it to be a rocket.
The "modern" LR3 with 300hp and such simply "ought" to deliver smoother throttle response on short little in town hills too (Seattle with rather steep neighborhood roads sometimes) rather than "jump" into 3rd or 2nd until you very purposefully release throttle pressure and then press slowly in again.
Recently I drove my 96 D1 paying close attention to shift points and the reality is that it does shift about at much but it's hardly noticeable whereas the lr3 really lets you know.
Again, for a sticker price of $55k, it ought to perform better, not just so so.
Then, when I got the 04 D2 5 years later (bought with 40k in 06), it felt sporty by comparison and with OME medium springs, didn't sway too bad and held a corner great, at speed even in the NC mtns. Of course it was stock weight wise with a borla exhaust and the 1.5" lift and stock 18" michelin xpc tires. It honestly felt rather peppy but then again, I didn't "expect" it to be a rocket.
The "modern" LR3 with 300hp and such simply "ought" to deliver smoother throttle response on short little in town hills too (Seattle with rather steep neighborhood roads sometimes) rather than "jump" into 3rd or 2nd until you very purposefully release throttle pressure and then press slowly in again.
Recently I drove my 96 D1 paying close attention to shift points and the reality is that it does shift about at much but it's hardly noticeable whereas the lr3 really lets you know.
Again, for a sticker price of $55k, it ought to perform better, not just so so.
I understand, but I didn' pay $55K for mine. I got mine used 1.5 years after release. I am really happy with my decision, but the LR3 could have more balls I guess. I just don't need that much for my needs anyways. My wife drives an 07 Mazda Tribute with a 4 cylinder and I feel like it is lacking. I just love the LR3 in about every aspect. I am thoroughly pleased since my purchase. The D2 is fun to drive though.
The V6 is fine, and I think it is a Ford Engine. Not sure what block family, but most likely something sourced out of either Jag, Volvo, or Ford Europe's stable. I found the drive pleasing and decent, reminded me of my D1, without all the noise. Yes it could use a bit more power but it did do very well. Never tried it off road so I cannot comment on it there.
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Saying that the V6 is a "Ford Engine" is a pretty generalized statement.
LR3 compairs to a D1? Please........
LR3 compairs to a D1? Please........
Not so much generalized, but not sure which company the block family the engine came from. It is important as the newer Ford Engines are leaps and bounds better than they were about 15 years ago.
Sorry but the V6 LR3 does compair to a D1. Not replace but compare. I would much rather dump that tired rover V8 for the V6 in the LR3.
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Sorry but the V6 LR3 does compair to a D1. Not replace but compare. I would much rather dump that tired rover V8 for the V6 in the LR3.
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TheataSigma said:
It's a Jaguar motor
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No way, no how does the LR3 compare to the D1. That's like comparing a Solstice to a Boxer. Driving wise, the LR3 is heeps and bounds better than the D1.
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Oh yes agreed there on driving. My back doesn't hurt when I get out of the LR3. However, I was commenting on the engine and performance not the ride, and how I would love to have one in my D1.
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Dan, I've heard from Rover techs that the origion of the petrol V6 is from the Ford Ranger. The block anyway, but the heads are unique to the LR3.
Of course, I can't corroborate that, it's just what I've heard from the "factory trained technicians", of which we can all agree have varying levels of knowledge.
I have seen JBL performance exhaust manifolds for the Ford Ranger, and they look pretty similar...
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You're right that a 4.0L V6 came in the Explorer and Ranger. It's not the same deal, though. One look at them will tell you this......if you understand the difference between aluminum and cast steel.
The V6 is produced in the Cologne, Germany plant and is the same one used in the Mustang. It's design (for the most part) is around 15 years old and is being retired...at least it was prior to Tata.
Dan, what kind of gas mileage do you get when you pull the trailered D1?
Dan, what kind of gas mileage do you get when you pull the trailered D1?