This will probably be the only mod I do to the wife's LR3. Can anyone give me numbers on installed cost? Has anyone had the dealer cut them a deal on it if added when buying the vehicle? Just looking for some ammo for negotiating...
LR3 winch. Get it when buying new or add later?
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Ah, screw it. Who am I kidding. This thing's not going off road anyway. Move along. Nothing to see here.
$4,000 installed for the winch kit. Holy hell. Me thinks I should buy a D1 and use that as a winch.
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dbregman
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Since this will be the wife's daily driver I wanted something more subtle than the ARB. After driving my G4 she is wary of the big bumper look. I could paint the ARB the factory body color, but by that time I'd be back up close to 4K in cost. We won't be "wheeling" the LR3, but I just wanted a winch for "oh-shit" situations and peace of mind. We couldn't find a 2006 V6 with the HD package (for the locking diff) so I thought the winch would help balance the scales, so to speak. I would assume one could get further without the rear diff lock and a winch than you could with the rear diff lock and no winch.
A few weeks ago I posted a number of photos of LR3's with several types of winches on the www.lrrforums.com website. I did a quick search a minute ago but didn't find it. There is a chap in Ireland that installed a hidden winch behind the bumper. There is a company that makes the winch plate for it it. It's very very clean and looks pretty functional.
Search for my same user name there and you should find something, I just ran out of time.
Regards,
NW
Search for my same user name there and you should find something, I just ran out of time.
Regards,
NW
nwoods said:
ONLY install a winch in a way which renders it useable in a safe and functional manner.
If your "stealth" or "hidden" winch mount requires you reach elbow-deep into some sort of bear-trap meat-grinder to engage or disengage then you are doing more harm than good.
You also need to be able to actually see how your line is reeling in and stacking up. "Hidden" is exactly that and you'll have no idea.
If your winch is obscured with some sort of cover that you can remove to make it completely visible during use, that's fine, but otherwise you are putting yourself at risk.
This is one of the reasons the factory winch trays are nothing if not functional. While a RTE or SG style bumper offers the most all around offroad function, I prefer a factory tray to an ARB or TJM type bumper and I wont' even use a "hidden" mount. I'd rather bash my factory bumper and have a winch I can use safely than have a truck with a bumper that looks "offroad tuff" and makes my winch more dangerous than it needs to be.
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JSQ said:
i could not agree more with that statement. ive never understood the hidden winch thing. if that stacks up on itself and you cant see it, you are screwed. say the line sits for 6 months like that, and next time you need it that kink caused by your inability to see your winch now becomes a major liability.
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noreserve
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Check out the LR winch/tray. Genuine LR part. Warn 9.5. It was on the LR3 that we drove in the LR Experience in North Carolina. Didn't have to use it, but I'm assuming that it must be fine, as it seems to be good enough for their use. I like that it doesn't drastically change the great looking front-end on the LR3. Here's a pic. Also, here's what the dealer states about price/installation. I know that Expedition Exchange has the winch for $2,350, but not sure of shipping costs.
The winch kit, which includes all necessary wiring, would cost you $2,692.04 plus and additional $760.00 for installation. You would loose the park distance control feature on the vehicle due to the positioning of the winch.
The winch kit, which includes all necessary wiring, would cost you $2,692.04 plus and additional $760.00 for installation. You would loose the park distance control feature on the vehicle due to the positioning of the winch.
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noreserve said:
That doesn't look so bad. I wonder if it comes with a cover. I need to talk to my dealership again. It looks like your dealer charges a lot less for installation. My salesperson was just quoting from his book, and it showed a whopping 17 hours for labor.
Any opinions on using a Warn 9000 or 9.5ti with their Multi-Mount portable winch system? It's basically the winch on a carrier that attaches to a hitch receiver. It would involve having the receiver added to the vehicle in place of the rear bumper tow hook, running power from the battery, and installing a Warn Quick Connector (wiring) Kit.
Pluses for my situation:
- Way less expensive
- Doesn't tear up the front bumper or modify the look from stock
- Keeps the approach angle in the front from getting any worse than it already is
- Keeps the winch out of the elements
- Could later be installed in an LR3 ARB bumper or in a D1 as a trail rig (or swapped between the two vehicles with the multi-mount)
Minuses:
- Takes up room in the cargo area
- Has to be secured with tie down/rachet straps
- It's easier to do a front recovery, and you can't pull yourself up a hill
- If the rear was grounded at an angle, it would require a Hi-Lift with the Lift-Mate (lifting from the wheel) to get it where the winch could be fitted
- Weighs just over 100lbs and putting it on could be a two-person operation
I'm thinking that to get the most out of a winch on a carrier I'd want to install the Warn Front Receiver in addition to the factory rear. I don't know where on the frame you could mount it in the front. If it could go behind the bumper and just barely stick out a square hole cut into the bumper, that would be best. I could plug the receiver with the Warn Hitch Cover or the Land Rover plug. On a dark vehicle, it would not be very noticeable. The other question would be if I could reach behind the bumper to put in the hitch pin.
Pluses for my situation:
- Way less expensive
- Doesn't tear up the front bumper or modify the look from stock
- Keeps the approach angle in the front from getting any worse than it already is
- Keeps the winch out of the elements
- Could later be installed in an LR3 ARB bumper or in a D1 as a trail rig (or swapped between the two vehicles with the multi-mount)
Minuses:
- Takes up room in the cargo area
- Has to be secured with tie down/rachet straps
- It's easier to do a front recovery, and you can't pull yourself up a hill
- If the rear was grounded at an angle, it would require a Hi-Lift with the Lift-Mate (lifting from the wheel) to get it where the winch could be fitted
- Weighs just over 100lbs and putting it on could be a two-person operation
I'm thinking that to get the most out of a winch on a carrier I'd want to install the Warn Front Receiver in addition to the factory rear. I don't know where on the frame you could mount it in the front. If it could go behind the bumper and just barely stick out a square hole cut into the bumper, that would be best. I could plug the receiver with the Warn Hitch Cover or the Land Rover plug. On a dark vehicle, it would not be very noticeable. The other question would be if I could reach behind the bumper to put in the hitch pin.
Trust me, don't go this route. I tried it on a D1 years ago and it sucks. It is super heavy. I weighed my setup and it was about 120# or so. It didn't do good on side pulls, actually tweaked the hitch pin just enough that it had to be beat out with a hammer. It looks goofy. Mud and crud gets between the carrier and the hitch and if you don't get the mud ASAP, it makes taking the thing off one hell of a chore.
I see them being useful for people on farms who likely have multiple vehicles and do mostly straight lines pulls moving logs or freeing a tractor. For the recreational off-road I don't think it is a good choice.
I see them being useful for people on farms who likely have multiple vehicles and do mostly straight lines pulls moving logs or freeing a tractor. For the recreational off-road I don't think it is a good choice.
Jack, I'll post up pictures of my winch mount in a day or two. its very well hidden and tucked up, but you can still see the line reel in.