"Lux" Defender
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Hate the interior. Looks like a Jeep Cherokee Trail Proven Limited Edition puked all over the inside of it. Nice subwoofer.
I don't like the front end. The bumper and guard look silly.
I like where they were going with the interior, but I don't like where they went... The two-tone idea is a good one, but that's a vehicle that needs a bit more air inside. Part of the Defender's soul is bringing the outside environment inside (literally, at times), and it's all gone there.
It's too serious. A Defender is bad ass enough to go without all that serious. They are trying to make a sealed passenger cabin out of an old barn, and it just doesn't work. Custom work is a wonderful thing, but sometimes one way of doing things just doesn't work with the car.
If you want the interior to look cool, black and gray is the way to go. If that's not doing it for you, there are any number of very colorful ways to do it that don't involve that "Italian cowboy" looking crap.
Overall, the finish work looks... decent inside. Someone needs to call 1977, though: They want their door upholstery back... Horrid. Pleated upholstery only works with a border, and pleats in a vehicle should never be that deep. They can lose all the other pleats inside, as well, because they all suck.
The front seats look cool, but I'll bet they aren't comfortable. Lateral support is nice, but a Defender needs to be easy to hop in and out of with a lot of gear. I think the seats may be too much of a good thing.
I can live with most of that. I mean, it's not like I have to drive it, but there is one thing that bothers me.
I swear, that shift lever looks like an old man that's just sexually harassed someone... :ack:
I man, that's kind of the end of it for me...
Cheers,
Kennith
I like where they were going with the interior, but I don't like where they went... The two-tone idea is a good one, but that's a vehicle that needs a bit more air inside. Part of the Defender's soul is bringing the outside environment inside (literally, at times), and it's all gone there.
It's too serious. A Defender is bad ass enough to go without all that serious. They are trying to make a sealed passenger cabin out of an old barn, and it just doesn't work. Custom work is a wonderful thing, but sometimes one way of doing things just doesn't work with the car.
If you want the interior to look cool, black and gray is the way to go. If that's not doing it for you, there are any number of very colorful ways to do it that don't involve that "Italian cowboy" looking crap.
Overall, the finish work looks... decent inside. Someone needs to call 1977, though: They want their door upholstery back... Horrid. Pleated upholstery only works with a border, and pleats in a vehicle should never be that deep. They can lose all the other pleats inside, as well, because they all suck.
The front seats look cool, but I'll bet they aren't comfortable. Lateral support is nice, but a Defender needs to be easy to hop in and out of with a lot of gear. I think the seats may be too much of a good thing.
I can live with most of that. I mean, it's not like I have to drive it, but there is one thing that bothers me.
I swear, that shift lever looks like an old man that's just sexually harassed someone... :ack:
I man, that's kind of the end of it for me...
Cheers,
Kennith
Blue said:
Yup.
I'd roll it right over to Ebay and sell all that stuff.
Geez. Did you see that subwoofer enclosure?
Cheers,
Kennith
Why can't we just get a basic vinyl style interior; something that is easy to wash/maintain and something that does not tack on thousands to the sticker price? :banghead: Damn I miss the LCs we had overseas with a basic setup. Easy to maintain, no unnecessary fluff. Just a great functional vehicle.
Fluff is fine, but you should consider the design of the vehicle.
A defender needs hard shapes that accentuate the glass. Those windows are the primary feature of the interior, and drawing the eye to the upholstery is just silly, no matter how much it costs. Nothing wrong with silliness, so long as you don't try to elevate it into some kind of design masterpiece.
The pleats ruin any class they were trying to achieve, and the complication completely crashes the feel of the interior. It just doesn't look like it belongs in the vehicle.
Still, that Viagra commercial shifter is the worst thing in there. I'm not trying to drive down the damn street with my hand wrapped around that thing.
Cheers,
Kennith
A defender needs hard shapes that accentuate the glass. Those windows are the primary feature of the interior, and drawing the eye to the upholstery is just silly, no matter how much it costs. Nothing wrong with silliness, so long as you don't try to elevate it into some kind of design masterpiece.
The pleats ruin any class they were trying to achieve, and the complication completely crashes the feel of the interior. It just doesn't look like it belongs in the vehicle.
Still, that Viagra commercial shifter is the worst thing in there. I'm not trying to drive down the damn street with my hand wrapped around that thing.
Cheers,
Kennith
Obviously if claim the spartan interior is sufficient for a defender then you have never owned a defender. The comfort of the spartan interior SUCKS. After a few hours in the two part drivers seat, parts of your body suffer permanent numbness. After a weekend of wheeling you have to be checked for gangrene. The back seat is unusable to all but children under the age of seven as long as their feet don't touch the floor. The seats in the way back are good only to keep stuff from rolling around and for transporting pygmys short distances.
Part of the reason I sold my beloved NAS 110 was because I could not change the interior arrangements without listening to every never-owned-a-defender purists telling me I had ruined a motoring icon by actually making it workable. Compared to an AMG G-wagen their is no comparison. The interior of the defender is quaint, like living without electricity is quaint.
Part of the reason I sold my beloved NAS 110 was because I could not change the interior arrangements without listening to every never-owned-a-defender purists telling me I had ruined a motoring icon by actually making it workable. Compared to an AMG G-wagen their is no comparison. The interior of the defender is quaint, like living without electricity is quaint.
Exterior reminds me of a 4 door hard top Samauri or a Nissa Cube. Nice interior but defeats the purpose of having a Defender, wouldn't want to get mud in there.
Those Jeep fender flares are hideous and those wheels remind me of one of these:
Why would anyone think those looked better than Rover alloys...are they using alloy wheels lugs on those too?
Why would anyone think those looked better than Rover alloys...are they using alloy wheels lugs on those too?
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landrovered said:
There is no need to leave the interior spartan. It's your vehicle, and you can do what you want. People might make fun of you, but you can't expect tolerance from every crowd.
Cheers,
Kennith
landrovered said:
"Spartan" has little to do with it. Having spent a fair amount of time in Defenders between a company car and a friend's D90 (although I never personally owned one), I agree that the interior is uncomfortable. In my experience, however, the culprit is not the seats themselves as much as the space in the driver's compartment.
I am 6'4" with a 35" inseam and size 15 feet. My lower body occupies a lot of space, and that is notably absent in the cramped quarters up front in the Defender. My Disco is comfortable and my RRC was a sprawling palace compared with the Defender. There's simply more space in these vehicles for my body to occupy.
The seats are part of the issue, but there's lots more to it that just that. I could put a RRC seat in a Defender and reposition the mounting rails, but that doesn't address the overall volume. I would be more comfortable but still cramped. I could put a Defender seat in my Disco and I would still have enough room (although my rump would not be as happy).
Solutions:
1. Don't be tall
2. Buy a "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" machine
3. Accept that you just can't fit into some vehicles.
No one said you have to have defender interior, just saying that I think the inside looks nice but not suitable for off road use. Get off your high horse.
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Not on the high horse...People wheel wool carpeted rangies and discos every day, why does the defender have to be vinyl everything, that is my point, there is a dual standard. Everyone is quick to opine on the need for the defender to be easily cleanable. Well some folks want to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer and be able to hear themselves think while driving. There is nothing at all wrong with leather and carpet and insulation in a defender. I bet there is carpet in your disco, why should I give that up if I buy a defender?
Tugela,
I agree, there are indeed folks that cannot fit in a defender, ask the british military, those guys will tell you how uncomfortable they can be. If the seatbox was not there then there would be a lot more possibilities.
Kennith,
I sold my 110 because I could make a profit but there were many things that I chose not to do to it because it would have hurt the value. You are right the interior is the only place you can customize an NAS 110 and not get killed on the price but there is a limit to that as well. As the trucks get older there are more colored ones and redone ones but the old stock white ones still bring the most money.
I can see myself in a gray market 110 that I can fix up in a way that suits me. It would be fun to do one of those icelandic ones but I dont think I could horse around the tires, ha ha.
Not on the high horse...People wheel wool carpeted rangies and discos every day, why does the defender have to be vinyl everything, that is my point, there is a dual standard. Everyone is quick to opine on the need for the defender to be easily cleanable. Well some folks want to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer and be able to hear themselves think while driving. There is nothing at all wrong with leather and carpet and insulation in a defender. I bet there is carpet in your disco, why should I give that up if I buy a defender?
Tugela,
I agree, there are indeed folks that cannot fit in a defender, ask the british military, those guys will tell you how uncomfortable they can be. If the seatbox was not there then there would be a lot more possibilities.
Kennith,
I sold my 110 because I could make a profit but there were many things that I chose not to do to it because it would have hurt the value. You are right the interior is the only place you can customize an NAS 110 and not get killed on the price but there is a limit to that as well. As the trucks get older there are more colored ones and redone ones but the old stock white ones still bring the most money.
I can see myself in a gray market 110 that I can fix up in a way that suits me. It would be fun to do one of those icelandic ones but I dont think I could horse around the tires, ha ha.
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