Marks adapters for D2 chevy swap

[aliastel]

Yeah. Older Land Rovers have just the amount of power and performance they should from the factory. The chassis isn't up to any more. If you want more road performance, buy one of the newer ones with a supercharged Jag engine. Power, reliability and style.

 

[drumhed]

So is there any sensible approach to keeping the D2? I am not opposed to a well built Rover V8, if such a thing exists. I have heard of Turner and some other UK company who send engines to the US. I have even gotten a quote from Turner. But I don't know who to have install it or even if importing it is really the right thing to do. Someone mentioned D&D and ECR, but I would like to have it done in the South East.

 

[aliastel]

So is there any sensible approach to keeping the D2? I am not opposed to a well built Rover V8, if such a thing exists. I have heard of Turner and some other UK company who send engines to the US. I have even gotten a quote from Turner. But I don't know who to have install it or even if importing it is really the right thing to do. Someone mentioned D&D and ECR, but I would like to have it done in the South East.

Find a good independent Rover mechanic down there and have the engine shipped to them. I'm sure someone on here can suggest a mechanic.

 

[jymmiejamz]

Working on Maseratis I've noticed that they they use Bosch fuel injection and even the same secondary air injection pump. They use ZF trannies too. You should swap in a twin turbo Maserati V8.

 

[robertf]

And I can get the system for a little more than a Hawkeye scanner would cost me. It's easy to be allured by that.

Really? Is that a perpetual price? I may need one for a car of mine...

Id still rather have the latest OEM ecu for a v8. Especially if any of the aftermarket electronics are in red cases.

 

[jymmiejamz]

So is there any sensible approach to keeping the D2? I am not opposed to a well built Rover V8, if such a thing exists. I have heard of Turner and some other UK company who send engines to the US. I have even gotten a quote from Turner. But I don't know who to have install it or even if importing it is really the right thing to do. Someone mentioned D&D and ECR, but I would like to have it done in the South East.

There are plenty of shops that can do it. Any Land Rover dealership could do it.

 

[aliastel]

Working on Maseratis I've noticed that they they use Bosch fuel injection and even the same secondary air injection pump. They use ZF trannies too. You should swap in a twin turbo Maserati V8.

And please post pics. . .

 

[aliastel]

There are plenty of shops that can do it. Any Land Rover dealership could do it.

That depends. I'm not sure how many dealerships there are that would touch it these days, or even have someone who has worked on older trucks.

 

[fjcardenas]

Working on Maseratis I've noticed that they they use Bosch fuel injection and even the same secondary air injection pump. They use ZF trannies too. You should swap in a twin turbo Maserati V8.

Let me know if one of those falls off a truck. Ill cram it in something.

 

[drumhed]

The FiTech kits that go in place of a 4bbl start at $795. Built in FPR and uses Bosch wideband O2 (included). Keeps distributor-style ignition. It will literally run anything that takes a standard 4bbl carb and has it's own standalone ignition. I guess that is the drawback.. You can't control spark timing. But in mild pump-gas setups, I don't see there being much to gain through tweakability.

Jymmiejamz.. I can't tell if you're joking about the Maserati swap!

 

[drumhed]

That depends. I'm not sure how many dealerships there are that would touch it these days, or even have someone who has worked on older trucks.

Land Rover of Birmingham already said no. Basically, they could not get an engine and would not touch a 3rd party mill. Not to mention the fact that even if there were an engine, it would be the same piece of shit time-bomb that's in it now, and they would charge a ludicrous amount to install it.

 

[aliastel]

Land Rover of Birmingham already said no. Basically, they could not get an engine and would not touch a 3rd party mill. Not to mention the fact that even if there were an engine, it would be the same piece of shit time-bomb that's in it now, and they would charge a ludicrous amount to install it.

Exactly. There are people who had dealerships install brand new engines in the day, and some of them blew before reaching 20K miles.

 

[fishEH]

Why don't you just install it??

 

[robertf]

I hate to disappoint but the FJ80 kicks the shit out of a D2...

You've been spending too much time in the desert. FJ80s and trees don't mix, too damn wide

 

[robertf]

The FiTech kits that go in place of a 4bbl start at $795. Built in FPR and uses Bosch wideband O2 (included). Keeps distributor-style ignition. It will literally run anything that takes a standard 4bbl carb and has it's own standalone ignition. I guess that is the drawback.. You can't control spark timing. But in mild pump-gas setups, I don't see there being much to gain through tweakability.

Ignition mapping is where all the big gains are made. You have to have fueling correct for it to really matter, and in a wet runner intake system like TBI or the 4 barrel conversions or even a carburetor there are lots of compromises made and assumptions that the reported o2 AFR is the same for all cylinders. Its not, which is a bummer because they are a very simple install. You also have more pumping losses since the intake has to be very turbulent to keep the fuel atomized. That can be the difference between a jerry can for the trip or a cargo area full of them and lots of anxiety about making it back.

all of this is moot if you can't do an engine swap yourself. You'll hemorrhage money having someone else do anything custom and be at their mercy when it needs maintenance, not to mention you won't know which corners have been cut and whats likely to fail.

 

[drumhed]

Why don't you just install it??

I don't have the tools or the time.. But I do have money.

 

[drumhed]

All of this is moot if you can't do an engine swap yourself. You'll hemorrhage money having someone else do anything custom and be at their mercy when it needs maintenance, not to mention you won't know which corners have been cut and whats likely to fail.

This ^. You're probably right. I did not hear what I had hoped to hear in terms of the Chevy swap feasibility, so I'm back to the question of whether it's worth it to have a shop put in a top hat 4.6 and fix my traction control, or just scrap the truck and buy something else. What that something else would be is unclear, and I have a strange affinity for the Disco 2. I have also considered buying a D1, P38, or RRC that is already sound mechanically and moving all my gear over. Surely $8-10K would fetch one. I just want something I can trust in the bush, at altitude, and in the cold. I've gotten 20,000 smiles out of this and it does technically still run, so it's not a huge loss...... YET.

 

[ArmyRover]

Have you checked with trailhead 4x4 to see what the charge to do the LS swap running rover electronics?

 

[robertf]

This ^. You're probably right. I did not hear what I had hoped to hear in terms of the Chevy swap feasibility, so I'm back to the question of whether it's worth it to have a shop put in a top hat 4.6 and fix my traction control, or just scrap the truck and buy something else. What that something else would be is unclear, and I have a strange affinity for the Disco 2. I have also considered buying a D1, P38, or RRC that is already sound mechanically and moving all my gear over. Surely $8-10K would fetch one. I just want something I can trust in the bush, at altitude, and in the cold. I've gotten 20,000 smiles out of this and it does technically still run, so it's not a huge loss...... YET.

GEMS era D1, pre AEL. No traction control to worry about, no XYZ switch, everything under the hood is metal not plastic, no insanely high opening temperature jarviks artificial babooon heart thermostat to worry about, no junk aftermarket ignition components like the 14cux. Just crappy crankshaft sensor wiring thats easy to fix.

Tophat is just insurance. If you start with a good block and never let it overheat it shouldn't be a problem, but then how do you know if its a good block? Throw the 4.6 cam in the trash, put a 53229 in there and spend the rest of your money on bushings,window regulators, and steering rod ends.

 

[drumhed]

Have you checked with trailhead 4x4 to see what the charge to do the LS swap running rover electronics?

I have reached out to D&D and Trailhead 4x4. We'll see who calls me back and how badly they want to take my money.