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terryjm1

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The radiator is an Amazon.com Chinese made 4 row all aluminum radiator. I have purchased such China sourced parts for LR’s before. In my experience they perform very well and are built solidly but each time I have installed one they required some effort to fit. Well, this radiator was no different. It was too thick at the bottom. I don’t know what to call them but I had to grind a little off (see photos) and trim the fan cowl/shroud at the bottom on each end, just a little bit.

But... for $244 for an all aluminum 4 core radiator, I can live with a little modification. Yes, I am cheap.

I just added a photo of the amazon listing of the one I purchase. Interesting it has jumped in price by $65 in a few days.
 

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Mice. I get them EVERY SINGLE TRIP.

In the desert, they are attracted to your vehicle.

There are kangaroo mice, proebles, house, pack rats, etc.

They have made my d1 home each trip in desert.

Once one is there, remove your trail munch, remove anything out of the fridge and catch them.

Always carry a mouse trap or two.

I am pretty accommodating. Will try to move them along, but usually they end up in a trap. If they don't get their head completely smashed sometimes they will live.

Rumour has it they eat soy based wire coverings. Hard for me to believe as there are tons in my yard, but haven't had a problem with vehicles, in or out of garage.

I think they can build a nest if vehicle is left too long. All my vehicles get regular use.
 

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Mice. I get them EVERY SINGLE TRIP.

In the desert, they are attracted to your vehicle.
I don't know Bri, maybe I am not in the desert frequent enough... But I have never, ever, seen a mouse anywhere close to my trucks or where I camp.
Oh wait..
Maybe a large dog alongside helps.
 
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I don't know Bri, maybe I am not in the desert frequent enough... But I have never, ever, seen a mouse anywhere close to my trucks or where I camp.
Oh wait..
Maybe a large dog alongside helps.

:)

Maybe you need hearing aids! We are all getting old.

Once you hear them easy to see.
 
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Or maybe I just leave too much munchies in my vehicles.

That little dude in the pic was pretty cute though. He took a few days and 200 miles before I asked another camper if they had a trap. Lasted about 2 minutes as he really wanted a snack after a day or two of me depriving him.
 

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My current dog is 85 lb and has some terrier.

He catches. ANY rodent here now. Hope he is a good camper.
 

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I don't know Bri, maybe I am not in the desert frequent enough... But I have never, ever, seen a mouse anywhere close to my trucks or where I camp.
Oh wait..
Maybe a large dog alongside helps.
I was thinking the same thing. I've seen plenty of mice or mouse tracks out in the desert but never ever had one try to join my camp or come near my truck. Once on a dirt road piss break on the way up to Crown King, I had a tarantula crawl under the truck and up the inside of my rear tire. We all jumped in the truck and hauled ass. Then later at camp we were all freaking out, searching with flashlights, wondering if he was hanging out up in the undercarriage and was going to come down and eat us when we were asleep on the ground.
 

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The radiator is an Amazon.com Chinese made 4 row all aluminum radiator. I have purchased such China sourced parts for LR’s before. In my experience they perform very well and are built solidly but each time I have installed one they required some effort to fit. Well, this radiator was no different. It was too thick at the bottom. I don’t know what to call them but I had to grind a little off (see photos) and trim the fan cowl/shroud at the bottom on each end, just a little bit.

I just added a photo of the amazon listing of the one I purchase. Interesting it has jumped in price by $65 in a few days.
Thanks Terry. It's amazing how these Amazon listings come and go, morph, and reappear. The one I was able to find is just slightly different from the one you posted - and a different price.
 

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Thanks Terry. It's amazing how these Amazon listings come and go, morph, and reappear. The one I was able to find is just slightly different from the one you posted - and a different price.
If I were to install another one, I might trim the bottom plate of the radiator instead. I was trying to be careful to not damage the radiator in any way in case it didn’t fit in some other way, forcing me to return it. Fortunately, everything else was a good fit. The bottom pegs were a little difficult to align but they did drop in with some extra “wiggling.”

For these Chinese radiators and similar, I will only buy them on Amazon as the return policy is very simple and buyer centric.

While I prefer the copper radiators due to their durability, the all aluminum ones do cool very well. Heat comes off of it rapidly everywhere. Even the top plate radiates a lot of heat.
 
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Back to mice.

A few years ago I noticed what looked like little nibbles taken out of a bar of Ivory soap sitting at a utility sink in the basement. Had me scratching my head, since I'd never had a mouse problem. Then, I noticed what looked like mouse droppings nearby. A quick online search taught me that mice are attracted to the fat in the soap.

I bought a mouse trap, baited it with a little cheese, and sure enough after a day or two there was one less mouse on the planet.

I moved soon after that so I don't know whether or not there are still mice getting in.
Yes that’s true about fat in soap. I’ve never seen a mouse eat it, but it doesn’t surprise me. Must have been pretty hungry.
I live in a real old house out in the middle of nowhere. I keep a good cat. A farmer I know will give me the heads up if there’s a real good mouser in a litter of kittens. Most times these cats are not nice cuddly pets and a dog will not fuck with these cats either.
 

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Thanks Terry. It's amazing how these Amazon listings come and go, morph, and reappear. The one I was able to find is just slightly different from the one you posted - and a different price.
On further inspection, you need to grind a little off each side of that bolt tube/flange shown in the photos to prevent the tanks from contacting it. It is a lot easier with the radiator out.

Also, I let it idle in the driveway with the air conditioning on. It got up to 196. After I turned the air off it went up to 199 for 5 ish minutes and then dropped down to 192 where it stayed at idle with the air off. It may have dropped more but I got bored.
 
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I can't imagine why. It's not like there's anywhere for them to hide in there.
He moved in and found munchies. I locked them down and then it was easy to catch him. He had a good last meal.

That trip was 4 weeks solo boondocking in temps from 10-80. Spares, tools, weeks of food, water, table chairs bed...etc.

Pic was after a 30 mile camp site move. I apologize for the lack of organization. LOL.
 

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I was thinking the same thing. I've seen plenty of mice or mouse tracks out in the desert but never ever had one try to join my camp or come near my truck. Once on a dirt road piss break on the way up to Crown King, I had a tarantula crawl under the truck and up the inside of my rear tire. We all jumped in the truck and hauled ass. Then later at camp we were all freaking out, searching with flashlights, wondering if he was hanging out up in the undercarriage and was going to come down and eat us when we were asleep on the ground.
LMAO. I tried to find my tarantula pics but can't. We even have Taratulas up here south of Denver. Some of the wind scorpions are pretty gnarly.