im looking to get the new macbook is there any discount out there. i have teacher freinds but they dont know where to get them
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at the mac store, go to the education store link in the upper rh side. it will prompt you to give the school's name and location and then you'll be sent to the mac educational store. it's the same but with discounted prices.
I think it's really pretty tough to get a new Mac with any significant discount. I bought my Power Mac at Compusa with a significant discount because it was the floor model and was going to be replaced by a newer model. It was however the 2nd fastest computer in the store when I purchased it. So if you are willing to wait for a good deal they do show up from time to time.
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Schattenjager
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WOW - I am selling my 17" MacBook Pro 2.16 it is on Craigslist (Anchorage, Alaska) as of this past Sunday. Upgraded to 2 gig RAM, three year Apple care and a smoking Pelican Laptop case. I have over $3,200 in all this, but will sell it for $2700 I have the box, books and DVD's. Lots of folks intrested, no cash yet - let me know if you are still interested!
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sharp21
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My new Macbook is the greatest computer ive ever owned...
Im trying now to sell my almost new, hardly used, custom built pc, to get a desktop mac.
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Im trying now to sell my almost new, hardly used, custom built pc, to get a desktop mac.
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Yeah, have to agree with Bri... Anyone with 2700 to spend is going to buy a sound night sleeping for an extra 500.
just to stir up the pot a bit...
Good thing they aren't servers.
Interviewer says "Whatever you say, since the world is definately lacking another soul-patch-sporting 20-something know-it-all".
http://informationweek.com/111/macbook.htmInformation Week said:
Good thing they aren't servers.
Right. At the interview, candidate says, "I'll only work here if I can use a Mac."Thomas Claburn said:
Interviewer says "Whatever you say, since the world is definately lacking another soul-patch-sporting 20-something know-it-all".
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Schattenjager
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1) I am not used to taking that kind of bath, if you are - wanna sell your Rover, brl? 2) I don't have to sell it. You missed that not only is it $500 less, (on jus the Mac) it also has an extra gig of memory, three years apple care (>$200) and an $85 carry case. If you don't want it - don't buy it - and do not criticize the price if you wont pay it. I took a 50% deposit this morning, so I guess the point is moot. I really hate it when people spout an opinion without any thought. A lot of people are looking to save $500 and no one is looking to sell for 50% when there is no need. That is all... bye.
jim-00-4.6 said:
I applied for a job, and so did another local geologist. We both has MS degrees, but he had a decade more experience over me. We both were former adjuncts at the same local college (he'd taught there several years, then left the year before when I took over), and both had similar references (actually, we both had the chair of the dept. as a reference). Pay would have been the same for either of us, they weren't considering different salaries.
I got the job over him. He was Mac-only. None of the software that we use can run on a Mac. He'd actually applied for the job twice before, and the first time was told that he didn't get it because of his Mac-only experience. He said that he'd go get training; but at the second interview, still hadn't. Third interview, still hadn't. If he'd taken a PC class, learned something about GIS systems, he'd have had this job instead of me.
He's working as a park interpreter now. Nice guy, I'm friends with him, but, a Mac won't cut it in engineering, mining, most gov't, etc.... fine in publishing, academia, etc., but, it'll close doors to you that a PC will open....
Leslie said:
I'm sorry but when was this? I'm glad you got the job but what you are saying here today is a thing of the past, unless this job was actually servicing the pc as an IT manager, today a mac is a hardware that runs mac os and windows faster than any other pc, so either he was missinformed the recruter was missinformed and you now are missinformed... you as an intelligent professional individual should know that technology changes constantly so repeating missinformation serves no one.
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simon said:
Six years ago. Actually, although I'm a geologist, a large part of it is customer service, using the Electronic Permitting software packages, which were written by our agency's IT staff for the PC, using PC software. I am in the Technical section, doing permit reviews, and I act as a back-up to the permitting staff.
No one uses a Mac. Period. The mining companies, all PC. The engineering consulting firms, all PC. Out agency only buys PCs. Our inspectors (50 of them) each have a PC laptop. In Tech section alone, we have five engineers, three geologists, three water-quality specialists, two agronomists, and five CAD mapping specialists. Not to mention the secretaries, the Permitting staff, the Special Projects staff, the AML staff, and the Admin staff. And that's for our division alone; we have five other sister divisions that are similar. All PC.
We have a separate staff of about ten IT people to handle everything in the background; networks, hardware, etc. All PC. Our programming is built as a Visual Basic interface to SQL server, in combination with an Eastman server and a historic "legacy" system called Dynaterm. We're using AutoCad2007 Map, SedCad, ESRI's suite of programs such as ArcGIS Map 9.1, Arc Info, ArcView, and oodles of other programs, all available only for the PC.
So, no, someone who insists on using a Mac isn't going to fare well. I agree, a Mac can now run Windows; but if all of our existing structure is built around PC's, why would we toss all of that infrastructure out the window to migrate over to Macs? As a state agency, that would cost the taxpayers a LOT of money, wouldn't it?
But back to the root of it: the Mac wasn't the issue. It was the fact that, he didn't know how to do GIS or CAD... because he'd only used a Mac. If he had been able to use AutoCad or ArcGIS on his Mac and knew how to use the software, then when they sat him down in front of his state-issued PC, he would have been able to have done the job. But he couldn't.
Leslie said:
are you kidding? did you read your post?
no one is saying to toss any pc, and again you are holding the concept of a pc as if someone using a mac would not know how to use a pc... it's the same shit just one is faster and more reliable, it's not that mac can now run windows... now macs run windows better than pcs, no one needs to migrate to nothing.. mac is a windows machine too and better, it runs on itel chips, CAD programs existed for MAC OS for years and years, someone used to run a CAD program in windows will not have a problem doing it in any other platform and vice versa but wait.. did I say that mac run windows? ohh yes it's true.. the fact that someone isn't capable of doing a job doesn't mean that the platform he is used to is no good, and again... and again.. now both are the same... man.. all this writing for what? it's so funny that people so used to the clones are so afraid of macs.. your jobs are not in danger.. sheesh... you should be happy that the best brand of personal computers are actually thinking of you.
simon.
Yeah, I read it, I wrote it! lol.... 
Look. I'm not anti-Mac. I grew up with an Apple, loved my II/II+/IIgs. Apple fan since '78. Around the mid-80's, somewhere in that timeframe, I did hate the original Mac, because it was half the machine of the IIgs, monochrome and not upgradeable (at first), but they killed off the II line for its sake. Went PC at that time, but, I was open to other systems, like taking Fortran on AVAX. '91-'96, I was on to using PC's ad UNIX systems at an Engineering school. In '96, I ended up in a more arts-oriented school, where a lot of the folks were using Macs... but, they all had to go running to use a Sparcstation to do technical work. In '98-'99 I spent a year in as the lab manager for the geology department's computer lab at UTK, which was half PC and half-Mac, and trying to get them to use the same printers (death to Appletalk!). [Note: Macs on Appletalk were fine, and PC's on a print server were fine... but PC's can't see Appletalk, and so I had to bring the Macs in through the print server to print, and they sucked at that.] And the number of times I had to go in to help the Mac users eject a disk when they tried using a PC! But I digress... My section's head, he was a nice guy, was using a Mac to do some beautiful maps, but they had no CAD relationship, they were just pretty pictures. Which is fine, for what he was doing... but you couldn't import it into any other combination of mapworks, it really wasn't friendly to georeferencing. I had to do a poster-presentation, and was used to using large HP scroll plotters w/ maps out of ArcInfo, but here I was trying to use Illustrator to print it out instead... but the Macs didn't have enough memory to process the plots! The PC's could spool-feed the buffer, but the Macs couldn't.... Gack, but, I'm offtrack again, that's in the past, from years ago.... things have changed.
Today, Macs have switched to Intel chips, and can run Windows. My question is, if Apple is 'superior', why do they feel the need to migrate towards being a more like a PC? Why do engineering schools use PCs instead of Macs? Why are schools migrating away from Apples to PCs?
Calling Apple 'best' is subjective, isn't it? But I can still answer your question, the reason why they are thinking of anyone is, they want your money. That's the same across the board, with any computer maker. The whole reason Apple dropped the II line and went Mac-only was, they wanted control of your money. With an open architecture, like the II's had and PC's have, you can do anything with it you want. Install a hard-drive from any manufacturer, a DVD-burner, a video-card, memory, whatever you want. You want Win2000, fine. No? Put XP home on it. Or XP-Pro. Don't like Intel? Go AMD. Don't like Microsoft? Go Linux. Pick your version of Linux, or, make your own.
Apple's gig is, they want control. You don't have Mac clones, so, they can control the prices. You want parts for a Mac, you go to Apple. It's all about ensuring that you'll be spending your money with them. That's why Macs hadn't run Windows before. But, let's separate hardware and OS/software issues here.
As far as the OS, the Macs have their strengths. But, with computers, it's all up to the programmers, isn't it? What programs are available? Fun stuff. Graphics, iPod tunes, etc. You can write reports, surf the net, watch videos, etc. The software that is written for Macs is easy to use and intuitive. I like Photoshop a lot... although I use a PC version, it is one of the things that originated out of a Mac. What Macs do well, they do well. But have you really compared all the features that the CAD program has compared to AutoCAD, an industry standard? It doesn't compare. It's a toy in comparison. Certain fields, such as mining, surveying, engineering, all are built on PC software architecture, not Mac architecture. Sure, you might have a few ported over, but not most.
Hardware: For the price of a Mac, a state agency can get two or 3 PCs. Why would they buy a Mac then? If it breaks, they couldn't pull parts off the shelf, or off of another broken machine, and keep going on the spot. The new Macbook, I like that nifty magnetic power-cord that pulls loose. I like that, but, is it critical? Since I'm not doing as heavy stuff at home, I was actually considering one for personal use, if they weren't so much more expensive than a PC. But, the dang things are white... do you know how nasty that's gonna look after spending a month on a coal-mine site? Sure they have a black one available, but for the more expensive price of it, I can get two PC laptops... And, they just sometimes freeze... yeah, sure, older versions of Windows used to, too, but XP's been solid for me. Anyway I don't know if that's fair to hardware, it may be more under the OS....
It's not like it matters to me personally.... if the computer that I have at work can help me do my job, I'll use it, be it a PC or a Mac. If the Mac could do the job, then I'd use it. The state, though, isn't going to buy Macs, so it's moot. Personally, I think Linux is the better way to go, and we do use it for some servers. It's more efficient, and doesn't have as much baggage as Windows. But, we'd have to port everything.... and that's not going to happen.
I know, I'm wasting my time here, but, hey.... I have a job, in part, because I can use a PC.
Look. I'm not anti-Mac. I grew up with an Apple, loved my II/II+/IIgs. Apple fan since '78. Around the mid-80's, somewhere in that timeframe, I did hate the original Mac, because it was half the machine of the IIgs, monochrome and not upgradeable (at first), but they killed off the II line for its sake. Went PC at that time, but, I was open to other systems, like taking Fortran on AVAX. '91-'96, I was on to using PC's ad UNIX systems at an Engineering school. In '96, I ended up in a more arts-oriented school, where a lot of the folks were using Macs... but, they all had to go running to use a Sparcstation to do technical work. In '98-'99 I spent a year in as the lab manager for the geology department's computer lab at UTK, which was half PC and half-Mac, and trying to get them to use the same printers (death to Appletalk!). [Note: Macs on Appletalk were fine, and PC's on a print server were fine... but PC's can't see Appletalk, and so I had to bring the Macs in through the print server to print, and they sucked at that.] And the number of times I had to go in to help the Mac users eject a disk when they tried using a PC! But I digress... My section's head, he was a nice guy, was using a Mac to do some beautiful maps, but they had no CAD relationship, they were just pretty pictures. Which is fine, for what he was doing... but you couldn't import it into any other combination of mapworks, it really wasn't friendly to georeferencing. I had to do a poster-presentation, and was used to using large HP scroll plotters w/ maps out of ArcInfo, but here I was trying to use Illustrator to print it out instead... but the Macs didn't have enough memory to process the plots! The PC's could spool-feed the buffer, but the Macs couldn't.... Gack, but, I'm offtrack again, that's in the past, from years ago.... things have changed.
Today, Macs have switched to Intel chips, and can run Windows. My question is, if Apple is 'superior', why do they feel the need to migrate towards being a more like a PC? Why do engineering schools use PCs instead of Macs? Why are schools migrating away from Apples to PCs?
Calling Apple 'best' is subjective, isn't it? But I can still answer your question, the reason why they are thinking of anyone is, they want your money. That's the same across the board, with any computer maker. The whole reason Apple dropped the II line and went Mac-only was, they wanted control of your money. With an open architecture, like the II's had and PC's have, you can do anything with it you want. Install a hard-drive from any manufacturer, a DVD-burner, a video-card, memory, whatever you want. You want Win2000, fine. No? Put XP home on it. Or XP-Pro. Don't like Intel? Go AMD. Don't like Microsoft? Go Linux. Pick your version of Linux, or, make your own.
Apple's gig is, they want control. You don't have Mac clones, so, they can control the prices. You want parts for a Mac, you go to Apple. It's all about ensuring that you'll be spending your money with them. That's why Macs hadn't run Windows before. But, let's separate hardware and OS/software issues here.
As far as the OS, the Macs have their strengths. But, with computers, it's all up to the programmers, isn't it? What programs are available? Fun stuff. Graphics, iPod tunes, etc. You can write reports, surf the net, watch videos, etc. The software that is written for Macs is easy to use and intuitive. I like Photoshop a lot... although I use a PC version, it is one of the things that originated out of a Mac. What Macs do well, they do well. But have you really compared all the features that the CAD program has compared to AutoCAD, an industry standard? It doesn't compare. It's a toy in comparison. Certain fields, such as mining, surveying, engineering, all are built on PC software architecture, not Mac architecture. Sure, you might have a few ported over, but not most.
Hardware: For the price of a Mac, a state agency can get two or 3 PCs. Why would they buy a Mac then? If it breaks, they couldn't pull parts off the shelf, or off of another broken machine, and keep going on the spot. The new Macbook, I like that nifty magnetic power-cord that pulls loose. I like that, but, is it critical? Since I'm not doing as heavy stuff at home, I was actually considering one for personal use, if they weren't so much more expensive than a PC. But, the dang things are white... do you know how nasty that's gonna look after spending a month on a coal-mine site? Sure they have a black one available, but for the more expensive price of it, I can get two PC laptops... And, they just sometimes freeze... yeah, sure, older versions of Windows used to, too, but XP's been solid for me. Anyway I don't know if that's fair to hardware, it may be more under the OS....
It's not like it matters to me personally.... if the computer that I have at work can help me do my job, I'll use it, be it a PC or a Mac. If the Mac could do the job, then I'd use it. The state, though, isn't going to buy Macs, so it's moot. Personally, I think Linux is the better way to go, and we do use it for some servers. It's more efficient, and doesn't have as much baggage as Windows. But, we'd have to port everything.... and that's not going to happen.
I know, I'm wasting my time here, but, hey.... I have a job, in part, because I can use a PC.
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Who felt the need to migrate where? Macs have always had the ability to run Windows apps. Before Virtual PC we had SoftWindows, and for a while there was OrangePC - a complete PC motherboard that fit into the PCI slot of your Macintosh..Leslie said:
While Apple now boats seamless PC-compatability by using pentium architecture, the bottom line is that it really is inferior technology. Will it get faster and faster than the fastest G5? Yes. And in 10 years' time you will probably hear about RISC-based processors only in the context of supercomputers, or as the legend of a technology that was abandoned because there was no market for it.