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Tugela

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No mention of the D1. I feel neglected.

Also no mention of the P38, which recent experience has reinforced to me that this is noteworthy only in the amount of headache it causes.
 

p m

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This article is full of little factual errors or typos, and inclusion of Discovery Series II can hardly be explainable.
Yet it was nice of MT to acknowledge the existence of the brand.
 

paxton

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"The Evoque hits all the marks. It's irresistibly stylish and loaded with standard features including Land Rover's best infotainment system yet." :ack:
 

kennith

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The list doesn't make sense. There were so few models, it would be less of a hassle to list them all and delete the three you don't like. It also lists three that seem pointless.

The Classic is the most influential Land Rover ever to hit America. to this day, people are convinced Range Rover is a separate brand. Unfortunately, that's quite influential.

The '95 Classic was highly updated, but it came and went. It's a Classic with a D1 interior. Cool, but not influential at all. It's the P38 that changed the game, moving from a little leather and a name to full luxury treatment, whether you like the car or not.

The '97 Defender was nice, but it's still a Defender. An altered drive-line isn't enough to call it influential. If it had any influence at all, you'd still find them on American dealer lots. No, it wasn't influential. They could have fitted it with an engine that ate Nazis and shit fairy-tales, and it would still be a Defender; a car that faced a cold shoulder every way it turned.

That's why we don't have it anymore. If it was influential, there would have been reason enough to create more U.S. specific alterations. Is the Defender itself influential? Of course. It's one of the most influential cars of all time... Just not here.

Our first Discovery is the second most influential Land Rover brought to these shores. It's the vehicle that turned the Land Rover brand into a household name. If it weren't for the Discovery, people would be even more confused than they are now. It was the dealership draw; the vehicle people could afford.

The DII? Influential? No. Nobody can tall the damned difference. It's better in a lot of ways, not quite so good in others, but when it comes right down to it, most people don't know one from another. Even the new DII buyer that would never have bought a D1 generally had no fucking clue what he was missing whether he'd have liked it or not.

After that, comes the L322 Range Rover. This is the vehicle that stepped up the luxury game, and put the company back into the limelight as a manufacturer of the finer things in life.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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stu454 said:
I love the retcon about LR not being in North America prior to 1987.

Being sold here and being officially and aggressively marketed, and supplied at flag-waving dealerships across the nation are two different things. Of course, by that logic, there are no Land Rovers in America, because the company still doesn't know how to properly market them.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

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kennith said:
The '95 Classic was highly updated, but it came and went. It's a Classic with a D1 interior.
Let me disagree with the last statement.
D1 interior doesn't come close to 95 Classic in fit and finish.
I have seen a single uncurled D1 dashboard in my life, and it began curling recently. Mind it, it is beige in color.
I have not seen curled 95 Classic dashboards, and they seem all to be pitch black. The dash itself is different and a lot cleaner and better-executed than Citroen-esque D1 instrument panel.
Seats? There's a Grand Canyon of difference between 95 Classic and all 3 flavors of D1 seats.
I could go on for a while...
 

kennith

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p m said:
Let me disagree with the last statement.
D1 interior doesn't come close to 95 Classic in fit and finish.
I have seen a single uncurled D1 dashboard in my life, and it began curling recently. Mind it, it is beige in color.
I have not seen curled 95 Classic dashboards, and they seem all to be pitch black. The dash itself is different and a lot cleaner and better-executed than Citroen-esque D1 instrument panel.
Seats? There's a Grand Canyon of difference between 95 Classic and all 3 flavors of D1 seats.
I could go on for a while...

Okay. I'll give you quality, but inspiration I'm keeping.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

rover4x4

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95 Classics are finished well, but try to find interior parts for the fuckers.

Ill say the Callaway P38, the 5 speed Discos, Defenders are cool but only the limited black softtops and the 97 LE's
 

Blueboy

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95 Classics are finished well, but try to find interior parts for the fuckers.

try to find new parts other than basic tune-up engine stuff for any of the Classis years.

there is some stuff out there, yet, as an example still can't find new rubber molding for the rear windows on my '94 LWB.
 

paxton

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Blueboy said:
try to find new parts other than basic tune-up engine stuff for any of the Classis years.

there is some stuff out there, yet, as an example still can't find new rubber molding for the rear windows on my '94 LWB.
You should start Vandelay Industries and concentrate on importing and exporting.

Aren't parts are much easier to get in the UK, even for the RRCs? Someone posted in the RR section a company still making all kinds of stuff, even the center console...

It reminds me of the Wheeler Dealers episode in which the buyer wanted the Jeep because it was so unique, and though it was hard to get parts for the Jeep, he didn't want to settle and get the plain old Land Rover, because they're a dime a dozen.
 

Blueboy

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We shall see if parts from the UK are available or not once the beast passes Swiss inspection. Many items have been changed before coming here ie the turn signal and running light. In US both are yellow while here the running light is clear. After getting registered and paying some bills then start working on some of the impossible to find stuff in the US.
 

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I think it was good of them to leave the Freeloader out of that mix. Just had nothing nice to say so took Mom's advice and said nothing at all . Theres so much confusion about the brands name and I think its Land Rovers own fault. When they re-entered the American market in 87 they called themselves Range Rover of North America . People always call my Disco a Range Rover . Now they are splitting the brands again and want to have Range Rover seperate from Land Rover . Thats not going to help , I can already hear the people I've corrected over the years , ask me again.