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Brazalovich

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My 95 discovery will not start. Turn the key and dash lights dim. Thats it I tried a screw driver on the starter and starter spins but still no start. I also can not shift the transmission into neutral when I I turn the key on. Is that normal? Thanks. Alex
 
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gadams

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Are you sure your battery is ok, Dimming lights and no start then spinning starter but no start sounds like a battery problem.

Greg
 

RoverChic

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Check the alt as well. Should put out anywhere between 13.5-14.2V. Do a search too on this board...For no start. CEL on by chance?
 

Surgeoh

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It's really difficult to diagnose a problem with such a brief descripion, but I'll do my best. First, a few things. I don't understand why you're having trouble putting it in N. You should already be in P or N in order to start the engine. When you turn the key and the lights dim and nothing happens, it's an indication that the battery is taking the power away from light illumination and applying to the starter (hopefully). If there is still not enough power then .... no start. All symptoms point to a weak battery. If the battery is good, the next possibility is a gigantic voltage drop from a resistance caused by corroded contacts. (Doesn't happen very often but it does happen) We'll assume the contacts are good. I'm not sure what you did with a screwdriver to turn the starter, but I'll assume you jumped the contacts in order to engage the solenoid. Turn the ignition on and have someone put it in P or N with their foot on the brake and engage the solenoid. If nothing happens, then I'm pretty sure you have either a bad starter (causing a voltage drop) or a bad battery. If it starts, then it takes me in another direction. When you turn the ignition the signal goes through another switch connected to the shifter. LR calls it a Start Inhibitor Switch. This is a switch that won't allow the starter to engage unless you're in P or N. If your shifter is out of position try putting your foot on the brake, turn the ignition and wiggle the shifter. Sometimes this works. You mentioned not being able to move the shifter. If there's a problem with the shifting linkage it may be inhibiting the SIS to close the loop. Hope this helps.
 
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gadams

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Surgeoh said:
All symptoms point to a weak battery. If the battery is good, the next possibility is a gigantic voltage drop from a resistance caused by corroded contacts. (Doesn't happen very often but it does happen) We'll assume the contacts are good. I'm not sure what you did with a screwdriver to turn the starter, but I'll assume you jumped the contacts in order to engage the solenoid. Turn the ignition on and have someone put it in P or N with their foot on the brake and engage the solenoid. If nothing happens, then I'm pretty sure you have either a bad starter (causing a voltage drop) or a bad battery.

Although bad battery is still my first choice, Has your starter acted weird in the last month or so, bendix gear caught with the engine running or the motor starting with a grunt rather than spinning? If so, bad starter with really high resistance. Probably not in your case b/c you describe spinning the starter by jumping the contacts but FWIW.
 
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Sergei

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1) charge battery up to wazoo
2) clean and reseat both terminals on battery
3) check ground lead between battery and body contact (that small screw right there. Clean contact nicely).


That should get your truck started. Then you may want to check alternator for not charging battery up properly (or did someone just left lights on overnight? :))
 

Lutzgaterr

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I agree with Gadams. A spinning starter that does not engage the flywheel means your bendix drive is bad, besides the other electrical issues you describe, once resolved, I think you still have a bad bendix drive.
Pull the starter and see if you can get it rebuilt or pony-up for a new starter. Buying a reman at places like Advanced Auto will probably have you back under there replacing that damn thing within a year.