Not your normal 2" vs. 3" lift thread...D1 content.

MUSKYMAN

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DeadHead86 said:
IMHO, nothing is better then the stock ride height. However, depending on what type of wheeling youre doing with your Rover, you might need a lift. I personally have a 2'' OME lift on mine. The only reason I have it is to get jsut a bit more cleareance under my diffs..

sorry buddy but you are mistaken...a spring lift gets you nothing under your diffs.

the only thing that gets you more clearence under your diffs is bigger tires.
 

DeadHead86

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MUSKYMAN said:
sorry buddy but you are mistaken...a spring lift gets you nothing under your diffs.

the only thing that gets you more clearence under your diffs is bigger tires.

I fully understand that. Thats a given, and tire size was stated in that same post. I didnt feel like it was necessary to break it down "Barney style". Besides, what would be the purpose of a lift if you dont need it for larger tire accommodations?
 

MUSKYMAN

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DeadHead86 said:
I fully understand that. Thats a given, and tire size was stated in that same post. I didnt feel like it was necessary to break it down "Barney style". Besides, what would be the purpose of a lift if you dont need it for larger tire accommodations?

ok you want that broken down barney style?

wheel travel...a well done ift gives you more wheel travel.

you dont always need bigger tires.

in fact I like smaller tires then most with more lift then most.

that gives me a truck that flexes and conforms to the terrain without getting tippy.
:D
 

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p m said:
Gem, the rear suspension on D2 is fundamentally different from D1. Basically, when the rear axle drops down, the pinion stays pointed towards the t-case; in a D1, however, the pinion is progressively tilted down, away from the t-case, as the axle goes down.

Indeed boss, You are 100% correct, I keep forgetting d1's have a rear panhard, no twats

d1 owners, please ignore everything I said about Rotoflex usage-my post(s) only applies to d2
iirc
you guys add 'washers' to the end of that arm-this may be a dumb Q since I dont own a RRc or D1, but does adding the washers affect a d1's pinion angle?


okay, I'll shut up now on this thread..
 

DeadHead86

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MUSKYMAN said:
ok you want that broken down barney style?

wheel travel...a well done ift gives you more wheel travel.

you dont always need bigger tires.

in fact I like smaller tires then most with more lift then most.

that gives me a truck that flexes and conforms to the terrain without getting tippy.
:D

Ok. So are you getting more articulation from the lift, or from other mods like removing the sway bars or putting in quick pins.

Real question.
 

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gmookher said:
Indeed boss, You are 100% correct, I keep forgetting d1's have a rear panhard, no twats
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no twats is correct, rear panhard is not.

If one uses large washers to shim the rear trailing arms back the pinion angle will indeed change. But it can only go down, so the only way to correct it with stock arms is to use aftermarket adjustable upper A-arm mount.
 
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mbrummal

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gmookher said:
Indeed boss, You are 100% correct, I keep forgetting d1's have a rear panhard, no twats

d1 owners, please ignore everything I said about Rotoflex usage-my post(s) only applies to d2
iirc
you guys add 'washers' to the end of that arm-this may be a dumb Q since I dont own a RRc or D1, but does adding the washers affect a d1's pinion angle?


okay, I'll shut up now on this thread..
Its actually an A-frame in the rear, not panhard rod (fyi).

and yes, adding washers to the trailing arms pushes the bottom of the axle back which rotates the pinion down. (It rotates up when lifted, I think).
 
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doubleedge

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DeadHead86 said:
Ok. So are you getting more articulation from the lift, or from other mods like removing the sway bars or putting in quick pins.

Real question.

Yes!
more up travel with taller springs, and more down travel with longer shocks.
Stock shocks will max out and hold your axle with the sways disconnected.
 

teledan

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Another thing to possibly consider, would you need longer brake lines with 3" or are the stock lines ok?
 

LRflip

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Yes, most certainly with real shocks, you are going to need extended brake lines...

What else is there??? The original intention of this thread is to get this particular guy to get a 3" instead of pussying around with a 2".
 

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LRflip said:
What else is there??? The original intention of this thread is to get this particular guy to get a 3" instead of pussying around with a 2".
This thread is exactly like hundreds of other lift threads, and you flatter yourself thinking it is different.
Somebody wants to shove in the biggest donuts in the poor Disco's wheelwells one can possibly find. There's no wonder there are two other threads with the same participants.

For every vehicle, there's a knee-point where cheap-bastard lifts no longer work. For a D1, it is between 2" and 3".
A CB 2" lift on a D1 can be done under $20 (in cost of raw aluminum).
A properly-done 3" lift DOUBLES the price of a D1.