Precision Shooters
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Ok - having trouble posting pics (not because i dont know how but because i cant find my camera!)
Anyway - i got most of the rig put together lastnight after waiting quite a while.
Rem 700 S/A
20" 1/12 Bull Barrel
Jewel HVA Trigger
AICS 2.0 in FDE
Morta Staggerd Feed Mag
EGW 0 MOA Base (got it yesterday might be gone tonight)
Seekins Precision 30mm Rings
Leupold L/RT Mil Ret. 6.5-20x50
Butler Creek Caps
Hope to have pics up lickity split!
Anyway - i got most of the rig put together lastnight after waiting quite a while.
Rem 700 S/A
20" 1/12 Bull Barrel
Jewel HVA Trigger
AICS 2.0 in FDE
Morta Staggerd Feed Mag
EGW 0 MOA Base (got it yesterday might be gone tonight)
Seekins Precision 30mm Rings
Leupold L/RT Mil Ret. 6.5-20x50
Butler Creek Caps
Hope to have pics up lickity split!
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Ho said:
To be honest i have never put oversized knobs on my 700 rigs - never really found the need to and i have yet to find one that is exactly what i want... Im not opposed to it but for the 120$ it takes to get it done i can have 120 rounds of ammo.. I dunno
Savage owners have it good on the knobs - they gettem for ~40 bucks and self install.
I don't know, I find the bolt knob to be one of the first thing to go in the custom 700s. So I thought you'd have plans for it.
I think you'll need a base with some buil-in elevation, cuz depending on where your 100yd zero is in the scope, you might run out of elevation adjustment.
How about bipod? Atlas? or Parker-Hale?
CodeCode said:
I think you'll need a base with some buil-in elevation, cuz depending on where your 100yd zero is in the scope, you might run out of elevation adjustment.
How about bipod? Atlas? or Parker-Hale?
Honestly, I'm sure you are having fun with it but that's just a factory gun with some bolt on stuff. You aren't going to win any BR or F class with that. Good to get started though. 20" 308's scream "tactical wanna be". Go to a long range or Palma match and see what barrel lengths are being used.
First off, I really like Remington 700s. I've got a few myself. I just don't get the AICS for the Remington. While the 20" barrel might scream "tactical wannabe", the AICS for the Remington screams wannabe AI.
I know you'll tell me that there a jillion reasons why an AICS is so superior, but you should have gone with a McMillan or an H&S Precision. At least then your build wouldn't be as much of a wannabe.
I know you'll tell me that there a jillion reasons why an AICS is so superior, but you should have gone with a McMillan or an H&S Precision. At least then your build wouldn't be as much of a wannabe.
KevinNY said:
Its funny what you run into on forums - 20" .308's are nothing new, nor do they scream tactical - they scream practical. The 30" barrels on palmas work fine for the loads they push. The truth of the matter is that 20" is enough for the .308 and the powders i use. I loose fractional velocity and at the distance i shoot it doesnt matter anyway.
Factory guns in the right hands are incredibly effective and are capable of winning competitions. Lookup team savage - see what they do. In fact - truing actions, hand lapping /jeweling botls etc has never been proven to imporve the accuracy of a rig.
A properly broke in, seasoned factory remington barrel is also worth more than a lot of people give credit. Dont believe me? Thats fine - buy a bartlein, mike rock, mcgowen etc and spend your money how you want. Will they make a difference? Sure. Would a tighter rifling ratio be nice? Maybe. Will the stock barrel out shoot me and you? Id bet a good lot of money it would.
I have had quite a few rifles some ive been deployed with others ive purchased; I have spent countless amounts of money and time working to find what works for me and this setup rocks.
The AICS works for me because i like the thumbhole design and i wanted to run bottom metal. I guess thats the tacticool bit - i get it - that makes me a wannabe - you got me. The jewell trigger? Also for posers. The lack of a tactical bolt knob?! No, it just doesnt make sense!
The truth is that I spend my money on good glass and working up loads - which if you ask anyone who has been shooting half as long as I have will tell you is far more important than buying a custom barreled action topped with a 3-9 and feeding it FGMM.
Sooo...
Anytime you want to see me run the rig in person kevin - you bring your 30cal, well group and see whos what. I shoot at blue mountain and at ledyard in CT.
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Mike_Rupp said:
Ok - let me break this down..
1. When you factor in the cost of bottom metal and bedding, a mcm a3-5, a4, a5 etc is exactly the same as an AICS. It boils down to preference, I like thumbholes and i didnt want to wait 3 months to have mcm build me a stock.
2. Shoot an AICS before you knock it. Theres a reason they are so popular - is it wanna be? I dunno - not for me - if i wanted an AI i would have bought an AI - im happy with what ive put together thus far but i am sure the AIAW is awesome
3. Ive had an HS stock - not overly impressed - again in some ways you get what you pay for. At their price point i think theyre hard to beat but their bedding system is inferior, the inability to change LOP and cheak weld, the awkward (for me) grip size and angle just didnt work (for me).
Ho said:
No need for added MOA on the base, i have 70 mins of internal elevation of my MK4 which is enough to get me out a fair way. It hard for me to find range in my locale - i shoot at a buddys farm in PA about four times a year and the furthest shot we can take is 710yd.
Ho said:
Rockin my trusty old harris - im waiting to hear if the new AI spigot from accu will take the wiggle out of the atlas. I have used the atlas before and found it to be an excellent product. Time will tell whether the AICS mating issue will be resolved.