Shopping for a Discovery II

Dangeruss

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Hi All, I came across this board while trying to learn more about Disco's and there seems to be a ton of knowledge and experience here. I'm looking to buy a Discovery II in the next month or 2 and am looking for info and advice. I like the 2003 front end and 7 seater option but am not sure of the real value of ACE and SLS. I will do occasional towing and offroading but the truck will be a daily driver and will stay fairly stock. Most of the ones I see advertised have 18" wheels. Are these part of a package with other options or just a 'bling' option? I would have thought 16" wheels would be better on a truck if it's ever going to leave the pavement. I would rather avoid complicated features if they are going to become expensive reliability issues. Any input and other general DII shopping advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Russ
 

stu454

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Welcome!

FWIW, I love my '01 D2. It's my first Rover but it will not be my last.

I have no experience with ACE and SLS. That being said, I prefer simplicity. Or as simple as a truck built in 2001 can be. Others should chime in with ACE and SLS experience.

The 18" wheels were a concession to bling. They're not bad, especially if you stick with all terrain tires. It's only with mud terrains that the availability for the 18" wheels plummets.

If you decide to get into offroading later, you can pick up 16" steel wheels or take-off alloys and put your mud terrains on those, and keep your 18" wheels for the highway.

Hope this helps.

Again welcome!
 
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Mudquest

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I think the 18's were part of the ACE package, and yes, 16's are better in general for off-road use. More tire choices, more side wall & etc. I'm pretty sure the 2003 model doesn't have the CDL option available. The 00'01'02 years had the function, but not the lever - it could be added later on. The 04 can came already equipped. I don't know if a CDL is an issue for you or not. (Center Differential Lock)

X2 on the above comment, unless you don't mind working on your own vehicles. Fantastic off-road though.
 

GSMullins

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My experience with ACE has been positive: on my 3" lifted unit, body lean is minimal on the road, yet off road performance (axle compliance) is still good.

Go for a unit with verifiable service history. If over 60K, head gaskets may be an issue, so any truck with higher mileage that has had them done is a plus. The D2's in 00/01/part of 02 have CDL-upgradable transfer cases, where 03's don't, so think about what you need. SLS is a potential liability due to leakdown problems and high upgrade cost.

Good luck.

GSM
 

NVRover

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02 models did not have the CDL, nor did the 03. I believe only the first 6 months of the 01s had the transfer case set up for CDL.

Do a search, there has been a ton of threads about Disco reliability. Bottom line, the D2s are more reliable than the D1s. The newer you can get the better. Which ever year model you buy, get an extended warranty.

Good luck.
 

jgdisco2

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ive got a 99 d2 its the first yr of them. i love mine alot more than i did my d1 that i had. mine is a se7 that came with the sls but no ace. the sls sucked so i switched to coils and then eventually lifted it(ome 2' hd). mine has the cdl available transfer case but i dont have a linkage. overall good vehicles but make sure its been maintaned or else it can cause quite a few problems.
 

aellisr

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In regards to ACE, if you plan on keeping the Rover for a good while, then it is really just "something else" to check once a week. Not that being attentive to a vehicle that deserves it is a bad thing, it is just something else to enjoy(worry about). Keep in mind Rovers are vehicles you own not your normal vehicle that you just drive. It's kind of the difference between owning a business and just showing up for your 9-5, when you own it, there is double the work to be done in order to keep things running well. Owning one of these guys is like dating the most popular girl in school, they require attention, lots of financial reminders of your affection, and you call atleast 3 times a day....ok maybe the calling is just the girl, but Rovers need to know you love them too.
:bigok:

I wouldn't agonize too much over 16' or 18' wheels, if you can find a good truck with a solid engine and transmission, the tires are a moot point. There is a never ending stream of the Proline 18' on E-Bay for modest prices that you can pick up.

If you aren't the type to embrace a hobby, then you better have deep pockets or a really skilled hand at counterfeiting. Just go ahead and figure in a Rover fund in your budget and you'll be fine. Do your best to find out the service history of the vehicle too. One of these guys owned by a dingbat for 30k miles that never changed the oil, air filter, or transmission fluid is a risky bet. Like I said, just know ahead of time you'll need some budget surplus(start selling weed to kids in middle school, they will buy from you BECAUSE you drive a Land Rover) to cover the here and there repairs and you'll be top notch.
 

jhmover

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I had a D2, I'm much happier with my D1. The repair guy I go to has about forgotten who I am. When I had the D2 I about had to move in with him.

I I was going to get a D2 it would absolutely have to be a 2004. CDL and 4.6 would probably make me forget about any other problems.
 

Dangeruss

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Thanks for the input guys. I didn't even know about the CDL. Some of the info I found said it was discontinued in '02 and added back in '03 due to customer requests (still with no lever). I'll have to plan to crawl around when I go shopping. My other hobby is 2 stroke sport bikes, and I've got a '52 army Jeep I'm restoring so I do tend to be 'involved' with my vehicles.
 

flyfisher11

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I just noticed you are in Canada. Go diesel whatever year you get (we in the US will be jealous as we can't get 'em) but with that being said, I'd lean toward an '04 if you can afford it. The newer the better and with warranty if available.

Good Luck,

Mike
:victory:
 

Steph

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Hem, We don't have diesels here either!!!

I just got my first Disco at the end of last december. I had been dreaming of this vehicle ever since I laid my eyes on one approx 10 years ago. I studied the possibility of buying one almost every year ever since, and finally decided to go ahead and get a 2000 SE7 as a christmas present to myself.

I live in Ottawa, and all I can say is avoid SLS like the plague. My compressor died on me last febuary. Our winters up here are way too cold and humid for the SLS compressor to handle. Even the air bags don't like winter up here. We might not get a fraction of the snow they get in northern states like Colorado, but it sure gets a lot colder here. Don't get me wrong.... If you want the 7 pass. option, you'll have to get a Disco with SLS. Just be ready to convert to coils next winter, unless you are lucky enough to get one who's owner has already done the convertion.

As far as ACE goes, it's pretty noisy, see anoyingly noisy, but it makes the Disco handle turns like a sports car. It's a pretty reliable device as long as you check oil level on a regular basis, and I suggest that you change the fluid on a yearly basis( that's what I'll do, and I've already done it to mine along with a complete flush of the brake fluid).

Other than that, those trucks leak like baskets. So far I've had the: intake,valve,front, and oil pan gaskets changed by Ottawa Land Rover, which by the way does not fit in the reputation of Land Rover Stealerships. The service manager ( TED) is a member of the Ottawa Valley Land Rover Club and is very helpfull. As an example, when my SLS pump died on me, he temporarily installed another one until I made up my mind as to how I was going to address the problem. He strongly suggested I converted to coils , which I did by getting a complete Old Man Emu suspension for only a couple of hundred dollars more than a factory coil conversion.

So.......I would say that most Discos are for sale because the owners had money to spend on them and did not want to bite the bullet. So expect to have to spend a couple of thousands right off the bat.

Therefore, I say go ahead and get one because they are great vehicles to drive and own ( once all is fixed), but get a 2000-2001 for heck of a lot cheaper than a 2003. If you like the headlights so much, you can convert for about $1000.00 This way you can add the CDL wich I have, and can spend those dollars to fix it and end up with a perfect Disco for still alot less than a 2003 in which you most likely would have to come up with the same amount of money to fix.

Up here, head gaskets a very, very rare thing unless your Disco has very very high miles ( confirmed by the dealer). How this was explained to me is that up here, the technicians are paid by the hour and not by the job. Therefore they do not get paid more for head gasket jobs than for intake gasket jobs. And apparently down in the States, stealerships quote head gasket jobs whenever an intake gasket leaks.

Good luck,

Steph.
 
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flyfisher11

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I stand corrected. I thought you guys north of the border could get diesel versions of LR. Maybe it is the import laws that I am thinking of.

Cheers,

Mike
 

Steph

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I guaranty you Mike, that should the diesel be available here in Canada, it would have been my first must have. Especially with the way the 4.0L likes fuel, and the price of gas...:mad:
 
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CoyGlasscock

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This may freak some people out, but I have a 2003 Disco II HSE.
I purchased form the Land Rover Dealer in Newport Beach, CA.
It has a CDL, it even tells you how to use it in the owners manual, and on the video you get with a new one.

It was an extra added option. So it is possible to get a 2003 with CDL.
 

XtremeMarine

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I believe; don't quote me on it; that the last half of 03, (like the first half of 01), the t-case had the option of locking (the nipple).

I would suggest that you buy an 04 right off the bat. And before the end of the year. It is the only model you can get to be certified pre-owned by the dealer. You may think that the dealer route will cost you more in the beginning, and you're right; but in the long run, the extended warranty will more than overcome the price. I bought an 02 in 05, and did not accept the extended warranty. When I lost the engine (my fault) I could claim nothing , and the truck was only 5 or 6 months out of warranty. My transmission let go less than a year out of warranty (not my fault). So I have a 5 year old chassis with 40000 miles on it; but already have a 4.6 conversion; and now have to buy a rebuilt transmission. I still would never own a different make of luxury 4x4 SUV. I am addicted to Rovers, as badly as I am to Porsches and Audi Quattros. Buy an 04, get the certified one, buy the extended warranty. And switch to 16" wheels. ACE is okay to have; but IMHO the SLS sucks beyond belief.
 
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i am on my second disco. have a 95 d I that is pretty beat up, but still runs like a champ. very easy to fix....

now i have a 99 dII. so far i have dumped $2k into it the weak i rolled it into the driveway. and by $2k i mean that was the parts....i did all of the work myself...also not too hard.

to comfirm what my canadian friend said, my local shop guy said the same thing about head gaskets. that them failing on a dII is the stuff of urban (dealership) legend. mostly it is the valley pan gasket which mine was. and this was a fairly straight forward (scary) one day affair. the problem has been, that i will fix one code and three days later i get a new one.

now i have a p1884 and a p0102....and the 1884 requires testbook to say which one of the 8 problems it could be.

my slabs and ace are working pretty flawlessly so far (knock on wood). i like having the self leveling when i am towing, which the dII does like a champ.
 

hywy61

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sticky valves
non - greaseable drive shaft
leaking intake gasket
leaking throttle gasket
leaky radiators - mine is a 2000 - not sure of later years

All of these are well know issues that will cost you big. If it has already been done under warranty / whenever then not as much to worry about.

I will not buy another. Constant worry and the dealerships are bigger criminals than Al Capone.

2000 DII 93K