My 99dII is running great, with no lights on or anything. Problem is that when I step on the gas, it blows out a good sized cloud of greyish exhaust. I have also noticed the smell of antifreeze when I park it, but cant find any leaks. Any ideas??
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I belive that the cloud you see and the smell of coolant are from a head gasket leak , the coolant is bypassing the gasket and getting into the combustion chamber.... -Andy
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That's what I was afraid I was going to hear. I just had the 60k service done right before this started. Is there anything that they do that would cause this? Is it ok to drive as long as it is running fine? How tough it is to install a new head gasket?
a time consuming job, someone else might know better, have done same job on my BMW, and that was about 4 days all together, but that was from start to finish with the head going out to a machine shop etc etc... keep an eye on the coolant level and wait till it gets real bad like smoking all the time then do a top end job on the engine , good luck -Andy
I dont think a shop had anything to do with it, but engine should run fine and it wont really hurt anything except maybey the lamda control sensors AKA O2 sensors -A
I dont think a shop had anything to do with it, but engine should run fine and it wont really hurt anything except maybey the lamda control sensors AKA O2 sensors -A
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Check your coolant level - if your loosing coolant, and it ain't on the floor it's either a head gasket or a slipped sleeve. If it were either of these though, you'd most likely be getting a check engine light with a cylinder code misfire (P1316, P0300). Both head gasket and slipped sleeve are serious problems. A slipped sleeve means you need a new short block (ask me how I know). A head gasket however, is not THAT bad as long as you don't overheat the heads. If you do that, you run the risk of warping the heads and ruining them, as well as warping the block. Aluminum heads and block do not fair well to excessive heat. You should be able to pull each spark plug and inspect it. They should all look black and dirty, this is normal. If any of them look really clean or white - that means they have been getting steam cleaned by coolant in the combustion chamber. This is an easy way to check for both potential problems, and is also very accurate. If you can't do it, any good mechanic can "read your plugs".
Also, have someone stand behind the truck and look at the exhaust pipe - rev the motor - if white smoke comes out, it's a head gasket. Now, it could also be that the "greyish exhaust" you mentioned is not really exhaust, but oil leaking from the valve covers and dripping on the exhaust manifold(s). A buddy of mine had that problem and it was very evident every time he stuck his foot in it - smelled like a good old fashioned b-b-que
I hope for you sake it's a valve cover gasket
Good luck
Also, have someone stand behind the truck and look at the exhaust pipe - rev the motor - if white smoke comes out, it's a head gasket. Now, it could also be that the "greyish exhaust" you mentioned is not really exhaust, but oil leaking from the valve covers and dripping on the exhaust manifold(s). A buddy of mine had that problem and it was very evident every time he stuck his foot in it - smelled like a good old fashioned b-b-que
I hope for you sake it's a valve cover gasket Good luck
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Sorry to hear about that. I would probably go pressure test the system ASAP. Just to be sure that it is the head gasket. Yes, it is a very daunting process. You said you smell coolant, Does it come from the tailpipe? IE Do you smell the coolant from the tailpipe especially on acceleration?
Depending on where the leak (or head gasket blew @) is coming from you should be *ok* to drive it for a while as long as you monitor your coolant levels. A friend of mine blew his head gasket on a drive from AZ to OK on his 1990 RRC. It blew at the exhaust manifold area so he just kept filling it up with water/anti-freeze mix till he made it to Oklahoma about a 900 mile drive. I am not sure that I would recommend the aforementioned. Good Luck. Melissa N
I was driving this past weekend in Dallas, when I smelled coolant. I started to freak out as I was almost positive that it was my Rover. It was the Nissan Sentra in front me..Every time she would accelerate plooms of white smoke would come from her exhaust pipe. I smelled coolant for miles after that.
Depending on where the leak (or head gasket blew @) is coming from you should be *ok* to drive it for a while as long as you monitor your coolant levels. A friend of mine blew his head gasket on a drive from AZ to OK on his 1990 RRC. It blew at the exhaust manifold area so he just kept filling it up with water/anti-freeze mix till he made it to Oklahoma about a 900 mile drive. I am not sure that I would recommend the aforementioned. Good Luck. Melissa N
I was driving this past weekend in Dallas, when I smelled coolant. I started to freak out as I was almost positive that it was my Rover. It was the Nissan Sentra in front me..Every time she would accelerate plooms of white smoke would come from her exhaust pipe. I smelled coolant for miles after that.
Is there something that is done at the 60k service that could possibly cause the odor? I have tried to convince myself for a few days that maybe the tech spilled something, but that is losing more credibility by the day.
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agro1
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No - If he had spilled coolant or oil anywhere it would have burnt off by now. RoverChick mentioned getting it pressure tested, which is a good idea, but also costs money. And if it's a head gasket or sleeve, your gonna need to save your money. Get the plugs looked at asap. Sorry I can't be more postivie, but if you have accuratly described your symptoms, it's not an easy fix. Keep an eye on your coolant level. If it moves at all, you got a problem.
You can have the system pressure tested for free..Go to a service center. I usually go to Firestone because they balance and rotate my tires as part of my tire warranty. I usually say hey I think my battery,alt, starter is dying can you do that "FREE COURTESY CHECK" just to verify that they are all testing positive? Oh and by the way I think I might have a vacuum leak too would you mind checking that as well? Don't know but it works for me. I have never paid dime to have any of that done. Do as Argo said as well and monitor the coolant levels..If its leaving at a VERY rapid pace it is more serious than you thought. I might even contemplating taking it back to whom ever did the 60K mile service check and use the line "Well, it wasn't like this BEFORE I took it here". That 60k mile service if done by the LR Dealer was about a 1K if I am not mistaken. A blown head gasket will more than likely run you more than 1k. Melissa N
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agro1
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Melissa - Seems chicks driving Rovers get free service, huh ? Everytime I sweet talk the mechanics they think I'm a fag that knows a lot about cars
Ahhh Luke. I knew this was coming.."its only because your a girl". I have to admit it has its advantages BigRed ( Sounds like Boomer Sooner OU ) If your married or have a girlfriend(s) have one of them take the Rover to a shop for the Free Courtesy Check.
I have to admit it has its advantages BigRed ( Sounds like Boomer Sooner OU ) If your married or have a girlfriend(s) have one of them take the Rover to a shop for the Free Courtesy Check.
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RoverChic said:
Of course you did
Interesting you mention Boomer Sooner, I grew up in OKC and my dog's name is "Sooner" Now since you "played that card" you gotta post a photo of yourself. Lets see it
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agro1
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Melissa - I tried to send you an email @ barbie@ou.edu that got kicked back undeliverable. Shoot me a email @ lzhartzog@bonddesk.com.
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Iron Boots
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just smoke when you stomp on it?
How many miles on the motor?
A bad head gasket or slipped liner would manifest itself in other places...as far as the antifreeze smell I would guess a small leak somewhere both DII's I see on a regular basis when wheeling smell like antifreeze...one had a small crack in the Rad...the other a tiny hole in the heater core....
I'm not saying it isn't a head gasket or a slipped liner, but in all honesty, I would hesitate to say it WAS one based on a puff of smoke when you stomp on it.
RJ
How many miles on the motor?
A bad head gasket or slipped liner would manifest itself in other places...as far as the antifreeze smell I would guess a small leak somewhere both DII's I see on a regular basis when wheeling smell like antifreeze...one had a small crack in the Rad...the other a tiny hole in the heater core....
I'm not saying it isn't a head gasket or a slipped liner, but in all honesty, I would hesitate to say it WAS one based on a puff of smoke when you stomp on it.
RJ
Possible good news... Just found the source of the antifreeze smell. It is from the antifreeze that is streaming out of the plug in the top of the hose on top of the radiator/fan.. follow me? As for the smoke, I don't know yet... What is that plug for? BTW, if it is some sort of pressure release valve, it is running at normal temp.
when good news goes bad... Just tried to tighten up the little cap, and the head of it snapped off in my hands. Does anyone know if the hose is a Land Rover Exclusive ($$$), or can be had at NAPA?
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Sergei
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expeditionexchange got brass replacement caps.
most of other online shops got plastic original one.
most of other online shops got plastic original one.
Not sure about you hose/plug issue, but the cause of your smoking is typical of most Rovers and I am suprised that most of the people on here haven't seen it... it is caused by the ECU running the engine too rich. When you accelarate hard you are dumping more gas in the engine that it can burn at any one time....which is giving you the smoke issue.
That is why when they rechip the ECU they reset the throttle response in the mid and high range or the throttle possition.
That is why when they rechip the ECU they reset the throttle response in the mid and high range or the throttle possition.