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Hello,
I bought mine last year from...www.bb4wa.com. They are Rudgrip 4x4 chains. Very easy to put on and take off. They only sell them as a set of 4 not 2. Since the owners manual says to only put them on the front tires, I use the other set as back-ups or until somebody tells me its OK to put them on the back tires.
atriot: I did have to put them on last year in the middle of winter when I went to Yosemite.
I bought mine last year from...www.bb4wa.com. They are Rudgrip 4x4 chains. Very easy to put on and take off. They only sell them as a set of 4 not 2. Since the owners manual says to only put them on the front tires, I use the other set as back-ups or until somebody tells me its OK to put them on the back tires.
atriot: I did have to put them on last year in the middle of winter when I went to Yosemite.
PacificGroveRover said:Hello,
I bought mine last year from...www.bb4wa.com. They are Rudgrip 4x4 chains. Very easy to put on and take off. They only sell them as a set of 4 not 2. Since the owners manual says to only put them on the front tires, I use the other set as back-ups or until somebody tells me its OK to put them on the back tires.
i've only heard the opposite. with chains only on the front the rear end can swing around with only the front wheels getting grip. i'm interested in LR's logic there. i've only used them on the rear
BaldEagle said:
I am going to assume you do not own an LR3 from your statement and you are only concluding this based on what would seem logical (physics) regarding past experience when putting chains on other vehicles. It states it right in the owners manual. In regards to my Disco II it stated not put chains on the front. I found out later that the factory did not advocate putting chains on the front due to clearance when turning. I do not know why LR is only advocating to put chains on the front of the LR3 yet. I did not experience any slippage of the rear end of my LR3 with chains on the front. The road I drove was very very curvy (50 -75 turns) with steep climbs and descents over 15 miles. Personally if I am going to lose traction I would prefer to be rear end as opposed to the front end.
atriot: Possibel reasons: Could the chains confuse the rear locker on some LR3's with that option. Maybe they are concerned if the chains are put on incorrectly and they fly off they could damage the wiring harnesses that you can see when looking under car?
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i never believed that you were misinformed or anything. i would do as the manual says also. i was actually basing my claim on experience and knowledge of snow chains. and i certainly hope you don't only listen to lr3 owners themselves. i was simply curious as to why their instructions were rather unconventional. i'd just be afraid to be going down a steep hill and the back swing around so i'm now sliding backwards. it probably is due to that wiring harness, which makes me ask for the 20th time why isn't it shielded or something? :banghead:
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BaldEagle said:
I asked myself that same question, why is it not shielded? In LR's defense it would be take something really freaky to get up in there and affect this wiring harness (i.e. Probablility of happening less than .005%!) Also, the "hill" that your mentioning would have to "really" "really" steep and more ice covered than snow covered. If I was forced to tackle a hill in wintry conditions that you described I would most defintely put on the rear chains therefore having chains on all four tires, and screw what the manual states.
atriot:P.S. There are several roads in that California Sierras that fit your description, but since the grades are so severe they close them during the winter. And if they did open them, then the only vehicle I would take on those roads is a Snowcat.
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i have to admit, i dont use chains in snow, just on ice, so i was only thinking of an ice covered road. in just snow i don't think the position would matter as much.
98DiscoLR said:
Where are you going? I haven't used chains on a 4x4 since 1989. I go to Mammoth several times a winter and snow is easy to drive in, true ice is a little harder but with traction control and ABS it just means slowing down a little. I cant stand putting chains on and that is one of the many reasons I choose to drive a 4x4. I would buy the absolute cheapest chains you can find, throw them in the back and forget about them until the CHP asks you to show them to him, then throw them in the back again and say "see ya suckers" to the guys freezing there a$$es off trying to figure out how to put their chains on their brand new 4x4's
I ski at Badger Pass in Yosemite, over the past couple of years they have had R3 road conditions several times in the park, under those conditions even 4x4's are required to have chains or no going in the park!atriot:
atriot:PacificGroveRover said:I ski at Badger Pass in Yosemite, over the past couple of years they have had R3 road conditions several times in the park, under those conditions even 4x4's are required to have chains or no going in the park!
Oh man, I havent skied Badger in in 25 years. It was good area to learn to ski in if I remember right. I think the West side of the Sierras have a bigger problem with ice as oppsed to snow. It gets the brunt of the wet Pacific storms which drop wet snow and then the cold fron passes behinds freezing the roads. The East side doesnt get many days of icey roads. Driving through snow is lots of fun, even without chains. Too bad they are soo quick to go R3.
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kellymoe said:
Big Sky Resort in Montana... Christmas ski trip!!!!
Yeah, I'll probably put chains (if needed) on all four, depending upon road/wheather conditions.
I have 3 little girls (Kids ski free under 6) so that is why we ski Badger. I can assure you that Badger has not changed (same lifts and buildings) in those past 25 years. I am pretty sure they are quick to go R3 because of all the campers that still come into park during the winter (Mr. Grumpy retiree probably would take his camper on any road, so they are actually are doing Mr. Grumpy a favor and preventing him from suffering an early death). Actually Hwy 41 in the park does get a little wicked after one of those storms.atriot:
atriot:98DiscoLR said:
The Rud chains are really easy to put on. An LR3 with chains on all four tires would be unstoppable (A Snow Tank).
atriot: Big Sky Montana sounds like a great wintry road trip (your juices must already be flowing). My family drove to Yellow Stone and Jackson Hole during the summer. What an incredible part of the world. I drove back non-stop from Jackson Hole to Monterey in 16 Hours with perfect road conditions. Have a great trip!
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98DiscoLR said:
My wife and I did that trip about 10 8 years 9 years ago. Drove from Los Angeles to Idaho. Skied Sun Valley and some small resort around McCall. Drove over to Jackson Hole, then to Big Sky. Big Sky is a great mountain. The main couloir off the top of Lone Peak is a blast. After that we drove down to Utah and skied for a few days before heading back home. Great trip.
Have fun and drive safe.
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PacificGroveRover said:Hello,
I bought mine last year from...www.bb4wa.com. They are Rudgrip 4x4 chains. Very easy to put on and take off. They only sell them as a set of 4 not 2. Since the owners manual says to only put them on the front tires, I use the other set as back-ups or until somebody tells me its OK to put them on the back tires.
Thks, I ordered direct from Rudgrip...$120 for a set!!! :victory:
98DiscoLR said:
I have owned several land rovers and other 4 wheel drives. My family and I go to the hills to shi quite often. I might have some advise on chains but PacificGroveRover doens't think anyone who done't currently own a LR3 should post on this site. So, sorry, I can't give any advice.:banghead:
expectthebest said:
Just noticed, I mispelled some words. Sorry, I had a few beers tonight. Cheers!
expectthebest said:
haha yeah, they won't start listening to the mechanics here until the warranty runs out. is your cruiser modded? i'm thinking about getting something else before i move to ATL for the summer (i'm not selling any of the rovers of course)