Anybody else see these retractable studded tires?
http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/1402-nokian-retractable-studded-tires/
http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/1402-nokian-retractable-studded-tires/
Snow Tires
- Thread starter captwyo
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"A Finnish company called Nokian Tires"
Really...really...
Anyways...I can't imagine it'll be worth the cost. It's not like the studs wear out too quick. Have run studded snows for years.
Really...really...
Anyways...I can't imagine it'll be worth the cost. It's not like the studs wear out too quick. Have run studded snows for years.
No, I remember that, but Speed Racer had those same tires on his car about 20 years before that...:rofl:
Not at all... I just think it's odd for them to have to explain who Nokian tires are like they're some small outfit.
Yeah because this is what happens when you don't have snow tires.
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There may be something to that. In my experience, if you say Hakkapelitta in a discussion about tires people will look at you funny and may say "bless you." Blizzak seems to have universal recognition, especially among my skier friends who have no interest in cars.
Depends on where that discussion is taking place. In New England the name Nokian is as familiar as clam chowder. Blizzaks are for newbies.
And required by law in certain Countries like Austria. In Switzerland if you are in accident on a snow covered road without snow (not all season shit) tires, you are automatically at fault.
Way back when, Gislaved was known snow tire brand in the New England region too. Had those on a couple cars and they were great.
Gislaved makes great stuff too. Hakks come up every other day in the winter. They really are amazing tires.
I am really liking the mich X-ice thought. they perform great.
I am really liking the mich X-ice thought. they perform great.
Do you even mean on a Rover? There are plenty of ATs out there that will perform as well as studless snow tires. Some AT are snow rated as well. BFG AT is one. I ran siped BFG MTs that actually did well.
I see no reason to run a snow tire on my rover.
The only times I have struggled a snow tire would not do jack. Studs would have. Instead I put on chains.
I could not find any definitive proof that what you say is the case either in the law on snow tires or on fault.
I don't think any of my rentals have ever had snow tires.
I suspect that there is no law on whether you are at fault in an accident. Rather, it may affect your liability if you were at fault or if you failed to avoid an accident. It might even help determine fault especially if you were driving too fast for conditions. I bet it could effect decisions on fault and it likely effects insurance claims.
What if one person is at fault and are running worn snow tires. Snow tires with less traction than the other persons non-snow rated tire?
What if one person is sitting still at a light with normal tires and is rear ended by someone with snow tires?
Edit...http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/overseas/snow-chains-winter-tyres.html
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I live in Eastern Switzerland and work in Liechtenstein. We go skiing in Austria as well as Swissland. Folks driving the Alps take their tire choice pretty seriously and usually all have 2 sets of wheel / tire combo.
I know what my car insurance states regarding fault during Winter driving. Yes there are always exceptions however in general if you are not properly equipped you are at fault.
And in Switzerland, every rental car has winter tires. I have rented one usually twice a month to go to the airport for the last 3 years. The cars also usually have the speed limiter set to the winter tire rating.
Your link sums it nicely in general by Country. There are then the local laws especially in the mountain areas where we live which govern.
It is nice talking out of your ass however real world life usually supersedes.
I know what my car insurance states regarding fault during Winter driving. Yes there are always exceptions however in general if you are not properly equipped you are at fault.
And in Switzerland, every rental car has winter tires. I have rented one usually twice a month to go to the airport for the last 3 years. The cars also usually have the speed limiter set to the winter tire rating.
Your link sums it nicely in general by Country. There are then the local laws especially in the mountain areas where we live which govern.
It is nice talking out of your ass however real world life usually supersedes.
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You expect me to believe something after all you can do is insult me AND cannot substantiate your statements?
Everything I have read states that in Swis. you must be suitably equipped and snow tires are not mandatory. I also read a bit about Swiss liability if not properly equipped. The reason I decided to look at this was because your statements contradict my real world life.
You contradicted both of these statements, so why not prove what you originally stated?
"In Switzerland if you are in accident on a snow covered road without snow (not all season shit) tires, you are automatically at fault."
At this point I am believing some of the sites that I reviewed more than you.
Doesn't make any difference to me one way or another.
Read and believe what you want.
I live here and brought over my Saab and RRC so had to figure out and adhere to all of the motor vehicle laws and regulations including getting them insured and registered in Swissland.
Real life experience on a daily basis.
Read and believe what you want.
I live here and brought over my Saab and RRC so had to figure out and adhere to all of the motor vehicle laws and regulations including getting them insured and registered in Swissland.
Real life experience on a daily basis.