Some are more equal than others...

pdxrovermech

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bah. i was just in CA last week an an article in the paper said that soon hispanics will be the majority. I cant wait to move there and get special treatment.
 

stu454

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I have wondered what Hispanics and Blacks will bitch about when the country is 65% Hispanic and Black and 35% White.

I guess that whitey will somehow still be pulling the strings.
 

RBBailey

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OK, let me splain...

The math doesn't work, not because 6/6 = 1 or not, but because of the human factor.

What we have is a fixed election being called 'fair'. Life isn't fair. You can't make it fair. Right from the start, this is a fraud. But why?

Let us look at the numbers by boiling it down to a simple number of 10 total voters, just to keep it simple. According to the article, that would mean out of that 10, five people are white, black, asian, whatever. The other five people are hispanic... now are you getting it? With this simple simulation you can see that the hispanic vote now gets an advantage of about 1:3.

This is a classic example of class/race warfare being promoted based on the idea of 'fairness'. It looks all nice and tolerant on the outside, but it is really a fraud designed to buy votes from a certain racial group -- it is racism. Carpetbagging. Fraud. Funny math. Whatever you want to call it.

All of that aside, it is unconstitutional. 6/6 = 1 is not a vote, it is a score card for a basketball game, a boxing match, anything but a vote. You are supposed to get one vote per person. Period.

This is a pretty plain example of the difference between Leftist vs. Conservative.

The Conservative says, "1 person = 1 vote".

The Leftist says, "No, not really, not if... and if... and what about... etc... etc..."

One way will help to preserve a Constitutional Democratic Republic, the other thinks it is OK to compromise on some things... and other things... and what about... etc... etc...
 

rovercanus

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Wow! I find myself agreeing with Ben! Now I'm going to go out and cut myself.
 

az_max

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Ben is right. It's EEOC/Affirmative action for votes. It should be one vote per person. Anything else is unconstitutional.

:patriot:
 

AU_88

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pdxrovermech said:
bah. i was just in CA last week an an article in the paper said that soon hispanics will be the majority. I cant wait to move there and get special treatment.

Do you really think you will get special treatment? Thats a laugh.
 

knewsom

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Ben,

It's not like they're giving hispanic voters 6 votes and everyone else one. They're giving EVERYONE 6 votes to distribute how they see fit. This is not really affirmative action, this is a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, I don't understand where you're seeing any sort of rigging going on. Seriously, maybe I need it spelled out for me, but what's the big fucking deal?

Kris
 

MarkP

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So in other words this is a public sector full employment act. More votes to count, more work!

Makes no difference ..... public sector destiny has been established.


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.....Get the hell out of Ill-noise folks. Right now.

Oh, if you're an Illinois teacher?

Your pension is toast......​
 

Nargun

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Sounds like an arse about version of preferential voting (or instant runoff voting)

It would appear to have the same effect in as preferential voting in the long run, but I would be seriously concerned about 6 votes.
 

RBBailey

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knewsom said:
Ben,

It's not like they're giving hispanic voters 6 votes and everyone else one. They're giving EVERYONE 6 votes to distribute how they see fit. This is not really affirmative action, this is a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, I don't understand where you're seeing any sort of rigging going on. Seriously, maybe I need it spelled out for me, but what's the big fucking deal?

Kris

Kris,

You could completely ignore what I said and read what the people who supported it said -- it is designed to give more voting power to a particular race. I'm not saying it, they are. It is affirmative action in the form of voting. It is racism: making a judgment based on the color of a person's skin. It is fraud. It is unconstitutional. It is a shell game. It is funny math. It is a bad judgment.

I tried to explain it above, and I did so in a way that shows that I understand that it is not 6 votes for some people and 1 vote for others. You just didn't take the time to read it.
 

knewsom

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Ben, if you call that "explaining", you must have a lot of students getting shitty grades. You said, "It's fraud, it's unconstitutional, it's funny math, etc," but you didn't say WHY, you just gave an emotion-ridden diatribe on why liberals suck and conservatives are always right. You also made the assumption that everyone votes for people who look like them, and that's just not necessarily true. There are also multiple hispanic candidates in this race.

I understand it was designed to give hispanics more "voting power", and that's what they said, but in truth, with this system everyone has the same voting power. If some groups of people choose to concentrate their votes on a single candidate and other groups choose to disperse theirs evenly, then that is up to the individual voter. If non-hispanic voters choose to concentrate their votes just like the hispanics, then it makes zero difference. I'll gladly admit it's a little weird, but I don't think this gives some voters more power than others.